March 17, 2026

Born a Medium: How Fara Gibson Uses Mediumship and Grief Healing to Prove Love Never Dies | EP

Born a Medium: How Fara Gibson Uses Mediumship and Grief Healing to Prove Love Never Dies | EP
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What if the most painful moments of your life were actually part of a plan? And what if the people you've lost are closer than you ever imagined — just three feet away?

In this beautiful, wide-ranging conversation, Brian welcomes spiritual messenger and author Fara Gibson for a long-overdue first interview. Fara has been sharing messages from heaven her entire life — without training, without a roadmap, and for years, without telling a single soul. Today she opens up about all of it: how her gifts unfolded, what soul communication really feels like, where heaven actually is, and why even the most devastating losses carry deep spiritual meaning.

This one will stay with you.

In This Episode:

  • How Fara's mediumistic abilities developed from childhood — and why she kept them secret for years
  • What soul communication actually feels and looks like from the inside
  • Where heaven really is (spoiler: it's only 3 feet above your floor)
  • Why losses through suicide, addiction, and accidents are not random — and how soul plans bring meaning to the unthinkable
  • Why Helping Parents Heal has Fara's whole heart — and what she's observed about grieving dads specifically
  • The no-filter bar story that perfectly captures why Fara delivers messages the way she does
  • What your loved ones in spirit most want you to know

About Fara Gibson: Fara Gibson is a spiritual messenger, psychic medium, and author of four books including How Do I Live Life When My Child Is in Heaven and Heaven Is Within Us. Her work is rooted in a lifelong connection with spirit, and her no-BS, deeply compassionate style has made her one of the most sought-after mediums in the grief community. She is scheduling approximately 8 months out — and as she says, an honest reading is worth the wait.

Connect With Fara: Website: https://faragibson.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FaraGibsonPsychicMedium

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Close your eyes and imagine.

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What if the things in life that caused us the greatest pain, the things that bring us grief, are challenges.

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Challenges designed to help us grow to ultimately become what we were always meant to be.

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We feel like we've been buried, but what if, like a seed, we've been planted?

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And having been planted, we grow to become a mighty tree.

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Now, open your eyes.

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Open your eyes to this way of viewing life.

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Come with me as we explore your true, infinite, eternal nature.

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This is Grief to Growth, and I am your host, Brian Smith.

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Hi there, I'm Brian Smith, host of Grief to Growth, and whether this is your first time listening, or you've been on this journey with me for a while, I'm really grateful to have you here.

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This podcast is a space where we ask life's biggest questions.

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Who are we?

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Why are we here?

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Where do we go when we leave this life?

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And how can we grow?

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Not in spite of grief, but actually through it.

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And today, I'm honored to welcome someone I've known for many years.

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Her name is Fara Gibson, and her gifts and her generosity have inspired me and many others in our community.

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I first connected with Sarah, I think through Facebook, but we're also friends to an organization called Helping Parents Heal.

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And Sarah regularly shares deep, moving insights about the afterlife and what she calls heaven, and the enduring connection that we have with those who've crossed over.

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We've also crossed paths in person at Helping Parents Heal conferences, where I've had the privilege of seeing Sarah do her powerful gallery readings that leave audiences in tears, comforted, and uplifted.

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Sarah is a spiritual messenger and the author of four books, including Looking Into the Windows of Heaven and Heaven is Within Us.

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Her work is rooted in her connection with spirit.

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And in this episode, she'll share her personal story, how her abilities unfolded, whether she's always been connected, and what role of any training or study played in her development.

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There's some of the questions I'd like to ask her.

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We'll talk about soul plans, life purposes, and how even the most painful losses, like the passing of a child through addiction or drug-related transitions, can carry deep spiritual meaning.

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I'll ask her a question many of us wonder, where is heaven really?

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And how does she reconcile her spiritual work with the language of God, heaven, and soul?

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So whether you're early on your grief journey or you simply want to understand life beyond this one, this conversation is going to be both grounding and expansive.

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And after the episode, head to my sub-stack, which is griefthergrowth.com slash sub-stack, where I'm going to post a companion article.

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It's a space where you can leave comments, ask questions, and connect with other listeners and with me directly.

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So with that, I want to welcome Farrah Gibson.

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Thank you so much for having me, Brian.

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I'm excited to be here.

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Yeah, I can't believe we've known each other so long and this is the first time we're doing this.

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So I was going to say the same thing.

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I'm like, wow, he finally invited me to his show.

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Well, you know, the thing is, I know how crazy busy you are with between the readings you do and the writing that you do.

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So I'm glad I finally got around to asking.

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In all honesty, I am I'm extremely busy, but I really truly am excited to be here and share share with you and your and your audience.

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Yeah, so Farrah, before we get into like everything else, tell people like how did your abilities develop?

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What's your what's your backstory?

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So my backstory, I was I was born this way.

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I I truly was born with this purpose and with this amazing ability.

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I call it ability because the gift is what I get to give to the people that I get to touch with it.

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You know, but I didn't understand it young.

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So I didn't have any training whatsoever or anyone nurturing or helping me along or embracing it.

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And honestly, I didn't tell anybody.

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I didn't know anything different about myself when I was little.

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So it's not something that I really kind of put anything together.

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I remember seeing Sylvia Brown and John Edwards on TV when I was a kid, John Edwards, more really.

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And he had crossing over with John Edwards.

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And it was on TV when I was younger.

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And I was like, whatever disease he has, I think I have that.

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And, you know, because I saw what he was doing.

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And I was like, whoa, he's he's doing what I've been, you know, seeing and feeling my whole life.

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And and it really put a purpose to me trying to figure it out.

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But again, I had no direction.

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It was very taboo back then.

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So it's not.

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And I will tell you, it was taboo in my home.

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So it's not like I could tell my dad like, hey, you know, I have this.

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And and I went through a lot of turmoil growing up with, you know, my life with a stepmom I didn't have much luck with.

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She was extremely abusive.

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And honestly, there's a purpose in that because she made me who I am and taught me how not to be a mom, you know.

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And so I think it's hard to see the beauty within yourself when you're walking through that.

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But I think those were like wax on wax off moments for me when I was growing up, because I was going to need to be able to relate to the people that I would help later.

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So everything that I've ever traveled through was like a foundation late teens, early 20s.

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I started feeling compelled to stop people.

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And it was just this, like, I have to say this to this person and stop them right now.

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And that's really when I started saying things from heaven, not really putting together that I was a medium.

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Nobody had ever said the word medium to me, and I realized that those moments that I was sharing with people were life saving.

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And that gave me an interest of understanding it more and working on developing it.

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And because I come from like the good old boy cloth and the old school, I was my dad's hunting buddy and his bird dog and all those things.

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You know, I really was like, okay, well, if I'm supposed to throwing it up to heaven, like if I'm supposed to share this, you need to give me the knowledge with it.

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I don't want to hand people partial things that they have to figure out.

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I want to be specific.

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And I want to, you know, give them a foundation of like heaven exists and we exist after this.

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It's my job every day to prove that there's life after after life in the physical sense.

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And so that was an important role for me to understand myself.

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Plus, I was going to be working with grief.

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So, you know, there's a lot of founding stories that I repeat, you know, and really the first time that I unnecessarily shared it was with my new husband.

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I was, I was married previously, had a terribly abusive relationship.

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And that was great.

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Also made me strong and taught me my worth.

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And then when I left that relationship and I got together with my husband, Jim, that was really the first time that I shared it unnecessarily and kind of came out, so to speak of the, you know, because the people that I was sharing things with before, when those were life saving messages, it's not like they're going to say to everybody in their circle, Oh my gosh, you guys, I almost took my life.

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And Faris said this, and now I'm not going to.

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So those were private moments for them.

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And I wasn't saying anything.

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What am I going to do?

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You know, who am I going to tell?

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Because back then again, it was still taboo.

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So, you know, and it was their private moments as well.

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But yeah, so yeah, at the motorcycle shop with my now husband, who was then my boyfriend, and it was a new relationship.

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And I did not want to mess that up.

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You know, was when I shared it unnecessarily for the first time.

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And I think that flow just, you know, made it so much easier for me to go.

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Here I go.

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Yeah, I want to I want you to tell that story because I tell it all the time.

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To me, it's really amazing.

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But before we get into that.

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Yeah.

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So when you were you were young, since you've always had this, were you seeing spirits?

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Were you hearing things?

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So I mean, I definitely like in that half wake, half sleep state would see spirits.

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But I don't typically see a medium connection is typically a soul connection.

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So it's not typically visual in front of you, you know, seeing things not not I mean, everybody has different types of abilities.

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So what I see is almost like you seeing a memory, I will see it as if I'm remembering it.

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When I'm seeing visions in my mind's eye, you know, just like, like I said, if you know, if you were trying to envision a memory of your wedding day, you could probably reminisce back to that.

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So I was getting memory visions that weren't mine.

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And, you know, and I was getting indications on my body, I would feel like, oh my gosh, like I can't breathe in my chest and my in my heart hurts.

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And, or I got stroke symptoms one time and ended up going to the ER and they were calling code blue.

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They were like, she has stroke symptoms.

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Oh my gosh, you know, and this was when I was much younger, and I didn't have an understanding of it.

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Or I would feel like my head was affected, you know, and, but when they did the when when I went to the ER, and they did all that, they were like, Oh, she's fine.

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And I was like, what is going on?

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And they were saying the same thing.

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And I realized, then after that, you know, some years after that, because I'm not a sissy lala chick, and I'm not a hypochondriac.

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So I'm like, what the hell is wrong with me?

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And I realized that I was getting passing indications on my body.

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For spirit, kind of giving me the indication of how they pass, definitely not something they carry over in heaven, just trying to be specific with me, like I asked, you know, specific so I can.

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And sure enough, they were and you know, I started understanding a control of that.

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Because if you can, you have those things, and you can acknowledge that you have them, then you can start setting boundaries.

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And so I was starting to say, you know, if this is not mine, I need to know that I'm not having a stroke.

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So maybe lift this off if I say lift this off.

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And you know, or, you know, and it just kind of snowballed.

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But yeah, so I see things in my mind, I communication with soul is silent, we don't have vocal cords and bodies in heaven, because we've stepped out of the car.

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And now we're just that spirit driver that has stepped out of the car.

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And so it's a thought process or knowing that just kind of comes at me.

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And basically to like explain it easily.

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And I would think back to them.

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But the cool thing about that is, I take notes during all of my readings, I typically take six to eight pages of notes.

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So I'm using my human taut hand with my human pin, and my human paper, using my brain that I was taught to make those letters with to write those sentences or those validations down for my clients.

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While I'm writing and have my human brain completely engaged in that writing, I'm getting full soul communication at the exact same time of the next validation that's going to come through.

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Okay, wow.

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So your brain is very, very separate from your soul communication, but it feels the same.

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Okay, yeah.

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So, so you said before you said you're the first message you gave, and not necessarily was at the motorcycle shop before that, were you like, would you get a sense like this person is going to take their life if I don't intervene?

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I wouldn't get a sense that they were going to take their life, I would just get this like, the best way to explain it in the feeling that I would get is and I always break it down like this.

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Like, let's say that you found out that your best friend's wife is cheating on him.

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And you know who it is that she's cheating with.

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And you just found all this information out and you just saw your best friend for the first time since you found that information and your friend doesn't know yet.

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Now you have this coming out of your like soul skin of like, Oh my gosh, I need to tell him or do I tell him or like, you know, the impact of me saying something might not reflect good on me if they're not open to me saying this, you know, all of those things kind of, and then I would just be like, but I have to say it.

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And you know, so I would stop people in moments, I, I, I made a phone call once.

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And this was in my early days, I made it phone call to somebody in the family, I'll keep that private.

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But I, I was like, I have to call you right now.

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Like, I don't know what it is, but your mom came to me yesterday.

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And I was not announcing that I was a medium or anything.

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But I was like, she said that she was at her grave with you yesterday, and that she heard you.

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And there was other specific things that I said, to kind of catch his attention.

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And he didn't even know this about me.

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And, and he was really, really quiet.

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And he was taking it in.

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And after he took it in, he said, Farrah, I was at my mom's grave yesterday.

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And it was just me.

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And I was telling my mom that my marriage is really bad, and that my finances are really bad.

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And I was going to take my life.

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And I needed to know that my mom could hear me.

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And you're calling me this morning.

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And so it was moments like that, that kept me driven to say the things, even if I felt weird, you know, because I mean, it's not something that was normal for somebody to just stop you out of the day and say, Hey, I talked to heaven, you know, yeah, yeah.

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Well, you know, it's interesting to me, Farrah, because we see some of the celebrity mediums on TV, and they walk up to people in the grocery store, and they read them and people will complain about that.

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So you should never give a reading that's unsolicited.

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But you, you said you were given this ability to use in this way.

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Yeah.

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So there's two things with that.

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One is people ask me all the time, do you do readings in stores and in restaurants and blah, blah, blah.

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I'm like, no, typically I'm shopping or typically I'm eating a restaurant, right?

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It's not like I'm going, what people forget in watching those shows is they have a film crew.

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Yeah, going in to capture that moment for the show.

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Right.

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So could I, if I ever wanted to do a reality show, which I will not just so we're all clear, could I absolutely do that with a, you know, okay, like we're going to go into this fries grocery store and we're going to, you know, I'm going to stop somebody, you know, as I feel compelled and come on with me, you know, but that's not being said on, you know, on their shows and stuff.

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I love the foundation of that because it does introduce mediumship to the world.

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It made it a little bit less taboo.

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But at the same time, it's not what I do all the time.

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If I've learned over time, if I have that coming out of my skin feeling of like, I have to stop this person in their tracks, heaven knows what they're doing.

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So as much as it would be unsolicited for me to stop this person's day, I've never had one time that that happened, that it wasn't embraced with love and need.

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And so I just have strong faith that like heaven knows what they're doing.

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They're just, you know, putting me in the right place at the right time for that moment.

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And I, I embrace it.

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I'm always on for that.

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Everybody always says, is it always on?

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And I'm like, you know, or can you shut it off?

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That's actually the question that I get.

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And I'm like, you know, I would never want to shut it off because I might miss an opportunity to help save a life.

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Hmm.

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Yeah.

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So, so I'm also curious because you used the word heaven and you use, you use a lot of language that we might consider to be religious.

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Do you have a religious background or religious faith?

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Or what is your, what is that for you?

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So I have never belonged to a specific religion.

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I was raised with my father.

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My dad was a single father.

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Some of my life, those were the best years.

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And my grandmother was Baptist Christian.

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And I did a lot of going to church with grandma because I spent a lot of time with grandma to get out of, uh, my dad's house with my stepmom.

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I love my dad.

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Don't give him.

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Um, and my mom's side of the family is LDS or Mormon.

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Um, and I spent a lot of time going to the Mormon church growing up as well.

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And there was always little bits of church that resonated with me and none of them that resonated with me as a whole to say like, I, you know, I want to do this because when, when people start talking about God as judgmental for me, and I do believe in God, I absolutely, and I just, you know, I know people call God different things, whether it's universe or, you know, like there's so many different names.

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Um, but there was parts of it that resonated with me and parts that didn't like anything negative that it was ever said, like judgment and, you know, like do this or else the, or else didn't make sense to me.

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The God that I knew and know, um, even then when I was little was all loving and, and, you know, just so supportive in our journeys.

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And so I was like, well, that doesn't make sense.

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Or that doesn't make sense.

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You know, and then there was, you know, the LDS or Mormon side where they're not as judgmental, but you know, they're very family oriented.

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I love that.

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You know, I love, I love a little bit of every religion because in, in any aspect, people are finding faith in this difficult world.

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That's so hard to navigate.

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I think that's a great thing, but I always say take what resonates within each religion and hold that.

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And if something doesn't resonate, you know, set it aside because your soul knows.

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And so I absolutely believe we have come from heaven.

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And I feel like we're all made of the same beautiful light.

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And I feel like we're all made in God's light.

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And, um, but as he created us, we were created in very different levels of light.

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So angels are some of the highest level of light.

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Um, Jesus, you know, which is so, he is so profoundly beautiful to everybody.

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And he should be, because he would be one of the highest levels of light closest to God's likeness that's ever come to drive one of these cars.

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But I don't believe that Jesus died for our sins.

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Your mistakes are meant to be.

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Your stumbles are where you grow.

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I think he was murdered for his beauty.

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He was so beautiful and there was such a need for control back then.

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Um, and so for me, there's parts of things that I'm like, yes, yes, no, no, no, yes.

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Um, so yeah, I never belonged to baptized in the Mormon religion.

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I never got, I actually, um, used to volunteer at the Baptist church, um, church camp in the summertime to help work with the disabled kids.

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And I was teaching them archery and stuff.

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And at the end of church camp, when your pastor Mike said, does anybody want to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior and, you know, get baptized.

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And I, I raised my hand.

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It was the first time I ever did that.

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And I was like, you know what?

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Pastor Mike looked at me and he said, Farrah, you're not ready.

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Wow.

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Well, I guess if Jesus won't have me, you know, but so there was a lot of things that didn't make sense to me.

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And, um, so I just hold within me.

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What does make sense?

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Because I have such an amazing connection with heaven, right?

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Have a need to dive into a specific religion.

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That makes perfect sense to me.

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I, the way I think about it, and I did grow up in a fundamentalist church and, and it was, went through all that stuff and everything.

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And now the way I look at it as like religion is like training wheels.

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I think, I think it can be a good start for a lot of people to put you on the right path, but I think people like you and other people, we tend to outgrow that it's like, we don't need that container anymore.

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So it's a, it's a good pointer.

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It's a good way to get started maybe, but some of the stuff just doesn't make sense.

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No, I think that it's best said that spirituality, spirituality will bring us together and religion will divide us.

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And, and I don't want to be divided.

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I want to love everybody, embrace everybody.

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I embrace every religion.

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I work with people from every religion, whether it's Mormon or Catholic or Jewish or Christian or, you know, there's so many different, um, religions out there and I think they're all beautiful and, and the truth of it is we're all one.

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And, and so if we can just understand that and embrace it and embrace that everybody has different thoughts and views on that and not have to debate it and fight it, like, why do I have to shove my views down your throat?

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You know, so yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I, I'm glad we had that conversation because I know, like I said, you, you use a lot of the language that people might think of, Oh, she must be Christian cause she says heaven and she says God, but you're just using the language that you kind of grew up with.

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I'm using the language that I just know within.

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And so, I mean, you know, as we're created in that light level, I guess I just didn't finish that, but as we're created in those different levels of light, we have the ability to grow our light level to be more like God's level of light.

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And that is actually the entire purpose of us coming here to this world and living.

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Everybody always says like earth is a school, you know, we, we're learning and growing and most people don't debate that they're like, yes, it's a school we're learning and growing.

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We get that, you know, but nobody's answered why is because as we're learning and growing our, in our journey here, we're growing our soul to be at a higher level of light.

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And we are navigating these difficult moments for that purpose.

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So those people, you know, and we'll talk, I know you said, we'll talk about soul plans and all that stuff, but we're given the ability to write a life here on earth and, and navigate the things that we write within that soul plan.

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And my blueprint, my soul plan for my journey is my intention for my growth.

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And I'm not bigger than your blueprint and you're not bigger than mine.

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So the people that we sit in the soul circle with our family and our friends and all of those people who are going to join us to be a support in us attaining that growth that we want to achieve.

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They write very different dynamics in their very own soul plan as well, where they're going to support you.

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And they're going to be this role for you in life.

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Somebody has to sign up to be the villain.

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You can probably think of the life, but when somebody signs up to be the villain, we'll take my ex for instance, cause he was a great example of that.

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He beat me and spit on me for 17 years and told me how worthless I was.

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Some people in the earthly sense would say there's a special place in hell for somebody like him.

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I actually don't believe in hell.

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I think this is as bad as it gets.

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But the truth of it is he signed up to be the villain to grow me the most.

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And I needed that.

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I needed that growth and I needed that abuse and I needed all of those things because when I was going to help people in this world, I wasn't going to be able to relate to them.

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If I walked in holier than now shoes and never been through anything at all, I go, you'll be fine.

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You know, and so I can go, no, I've been through more than I can make a Billy go puke.

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I get it.

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Find the beautiful and every terrible thing that you've ever been through.

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There's your growth.

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And so, you know, when, when I get back to heaven someday, my ex will be there with me.

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And as much as in life, I hope he steps in warm gum, because if that reflects back on me, I'll buy new flip flops.

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He's not a good person in life, but he wasn't meant to be.

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So people say, Oh my God, he's going to, you know, have so much remorse or regret.

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And the truth of it is he played the role that he was meant to play and he played it well.

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And, you know, there is free will that he had to approach that role.

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And he took it to the nth degree a few times.

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So there'd be moments of growth for him, like, Oh, could have been a little less there, you know, as we do a life review.

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But yeah, that is, that is a hard lesson, you know, for people to hear because they'll say, well, you're excusing bad behavior.

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But if bad behavior is intentional for us to grow, somebody has to deliver the bad.

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And that's, that's the thing, you know, you're here to navigate obstacles.

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There's no negativity in heaven or, you know, whatever anybody calls it.

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Yeah, there's no negative thoughts, feelings, emotions, jealousy does not exist.

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We have to separate our human experience completely because it's really hard for us to wrap our human minds around these things and look at the spiritual opportunity for it for us, you know, so everything that we navigate is nothing that exists in heaven when it comes to anything negative or difficult.

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So some of the spirits with the most intention for growth will write, I can go through this, this, this, this, this, including the loss of a child in the physical sense, holy crap, you guys are spiritual badasses.

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Because that is not an easy road to navigate.

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And your children said, you know what, I'm willing to bless you with that growth, I'm going to graduate first, it's going to be the hardest thing you've ever navigated through, you know, and you are not bigger than your child's blueprint.

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And they are not bigger than yours.

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So it's really hard to explain those dynamics to when it comes to somebody passing, you know, at the hand of somebody else, you know, at times like whether it's a drunk driver, or, you know, I've told a story about war, right?

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So and I will, I will actually tell this one really quick to kind of put that in perspective, because I just mentioned, like, what if somebody passes at the hand of somebody else?

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Yeah, I did a group reading one time.

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And I go to this group reading, and then there is a gentleman that's probably in his late 60s, sitting in his chair, arms folded, he does not want to be there, he scouted me from the time that I walk in the door, there's 10 people that I have to get to in a three hour timeframe.

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And he's number 11.

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So he's really not somebody that I'm supposed to read while I'm there or give validations to his wife had wanted to sit in and just listen and just be there.

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And he made that very clear.

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He's like, I'm not part of this, my wife just wanted me to sit here.

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And I'm like, man, I'm proud of you for sitting in, you know, and I go around for three hours and do readings for all the other 10 people.

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And at the very end of it, I looked at him and I said, can I come to you?

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And he goes, give it your best shot.

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I bought game on, let's go.

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Because what I was seeing was so profound, and I knew it was going to reach his heart.

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And I said, I have two Vietnamese soldiers that are coming through.

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One of them says that you slit his throat from left to right.

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And one of them says you stabbed him twice in the chest.

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And all you had was a pocket knife.

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And that man sat in that chair and tears were rolling down his face, his mouth wide open, his wife like whips her head around, she's looking at him like, what the hell, she's never heard this story.

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And I always take pause when I'm trying to, you know, decipher what I'm seeing.

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And I said, were you loading bombs onto planes in that war?

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And he sits back in his chair.

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And he says, how the I don't know if I can cast on your show.

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He says, how did you know that?

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And I said, well, they're showing me the job that my personal husband did in the Air Force.

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And he loaded munitions on the planes in Korea years ago when he was in the Air Force.

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And so it tells me you did something different, similar to that.

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And, you know, and he cried and cried and cried, and there was things that I gave him about his kids, you know, that they were currently doing, but there's no way that I would know and things like that.

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And then he he's, he started to validate, he was like, yeah, it was he was in Vietnam, he was on base, it was not supposed to be a combat space, you know, he was loading the munitions onto the planes, and two Vietnamese soldiers had snuck onto base, and he had to take their life in hand-to-hand combat, just as they had said.

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And he they he had passed them to heaven, just as they had said.

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And, and then he moved to a place of why, why would they come through for me?

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You brought moms and dads and kids through and, you know, all these people.

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And I said, because they love you.

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And he sat back in his chair again, and he goes, what do you mean?

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They love me.

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I killed him.

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And he's just crying.

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And I said, yeah, but as you sat in heaven, and you wrote your soul plan, you wrote that you were going to sign up to be in the military for the United States of America on your soul journey.

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In that navigation, in that military time, you also wrote that you were going to join that Vietnam War that a lot of other souls were planning to be a part of in that time to walk through the most difficult journey.

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And I said, and as you wrote that, you also wrote that you were going to be a hero for the United States of America in the Vietnam War.

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How on earth were you going to be a hero for that war if nobody wrote to meet you there?

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Those men were also in heaven at the same time, writing their soul plan to live a life in Vietnam.

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They were writing to join the Vietnamese military.

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They were writing to join the Vietnam conflict in their country that they were going to be present for in their lifetime.

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And when they wrote their soul plan, they wrote that their graduation date of heaven was going to be to pass as heroes for Vietnam.

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How on earth were they going to pass as heroes for Vietnam if you didn't write to meet them there?

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And so it is funny because you shake your head at that a little bit and you go, oh, wow, that's really cool.

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And that's the reaction.

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I love that that moment happened because it gave me an example of saying now I can say the same thing for somebody who did pass, you know, at the hand of a drunk driver, because it is not an easy life to write to be the one that is going to be responsible and have to hold space the rest of their life for being an alcoholic, for taking the life of somebody and holding that burden, possibly going a prison route and all of those things that may come with that in life.

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And they do that out of love for the family that they're touching.

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And that is the one that's really hard for our, you know, human minds to wrap around because soul plans are so intertwined.

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It's it's interesting.

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It is it is very interesting.

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And you know, it's another thing that because I know you do so much work with helping parents heal and it's it's so I do want to ask you, why do you have it?

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Do you know why you're so attracted to, I mean, helping probably the most difficult people to help I, I know other mediums that have been part of the organization that they get burned out and they can't keep doing it because it's because it's so hard.

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Why do you feel so attracted to it?

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I'm driven.

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I, I have such a profound drive to heal this world one at a time, one person at a time.

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And, and the foundation of helping parents heal is so amazing to me because I've seen a lot of grief groups in, in the time that I've shared my abilities and most grief groups that I've seen are very, very heavy, very grief focused.

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And, you know, and, and what I found about helping parents heal, honestly, I didn't even mean to be a part of helping parents heal that happened on a whim at a yoga studio.

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Elizabeth was walking out of a yoga studio when I was walking out of doing a three hour reading.

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And, you know, and haven't put us in each other's path when helping parents heal really just had kind of started.

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And when she talked to me about the organization, I was like, helping parents heal, huh, that sounds much better to me than focusing on grief, you know, and the loss and them not being here.

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So a lot of the other grief groups that I had seen, and I used to do a lot of writing and try to share it to like the grief toolbox and some of the places like on Facebook and everybody was like, you know, today sucks.

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It's a terrible day and you're going to have those days in grief.

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Don't get me wrong.

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But then I would see everybody else going, yeah, it does.

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Life's terrible.

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I hate this blah, blah, blah.

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And it was just negative, negative, negative.

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And I didn't see anybody jumping into action to lift any of them.

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Like, I got you, you know, I understand you.

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If you need me, I'm here.

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But helping parents heal had that helping parents heal had parents that were having a terrible day and other parents going, I got you.

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Do you know, do you need to call me or, you know, can I lift you?

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And they were focused on signs from the kids and, you know, creating art projects to honor their children.

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And, you know, really kind of giving your focus to living with your children and spirits still at your side.

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And that that made sense to me.

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But and then there's dads, the dads group.

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I was literally just telling my husband last night, you know, women were emotional beings, you know, and and were more apt to be okay with wearing our emotions on our sleeves and have this, you know, network of other friends that were not, you know, we were not without.

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But men in my observation, you know, because I come from the good old boy cloth tend not to wear their emotions on their sleeves tend to be the one that has to hold family up and to hold up the wife who has also lost that child or to hold up the other kids that are still living in and lost their sibling in that sense.

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But where did the men have to be for their lift for their support for their help?

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That dads group that has developed over the years with helping parents heal has my heart.

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Because those guys can't just go in their everyday workday and talk to all their co workers about, you know, like, Oh, I want to talk about my daughter today, or I did a reading with a medium and oh my gosh, you should have heard some of them, some of them have friends that they can talk to about that.

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But, you know, in the everyday normal like business world or construction world or wherever it is that they may work or their friend circle.

00:34:04.439 --> 00:34:07.739
If you haven't been through it yourself, you don't understand it.

00:34:08.380 --> 00:34:15.259
So having a place to be where these parents are all a community of love is it has my heart.

00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:28.759
And I will never I mean, I literally work from six in the morning until 11 o'clock at night, whether it's writing, answering questions, sharing things, trying to I tell everybody about helping parents heal, and I'm not on the payroll.

00:34:30.139 --> 00:34:37.239
You know, I don't do it because I get a kickback for what I do it because I love giving opportunities for people to find an avenue to heal.

00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:38.019
Yeah.

00:34:38.280 --> 00:35:17.880
Well, I was saying we've only met a couple of times in person and it's been at the conferences and you're just like, you're like a light, not like you're a light at the conferences, just the energy that you exude and the way you you lift everybody up with with your your spirit and, and, and delivering some of these really difficult lessons like your child's life has a purpose, you know, that's not it's not random, you know, they weren't just accidentally killed by a drunk driver or or drug overdose or suicide, you know, it's this, these are all things that are part of the plan and that that could be so healing for parents, even though it could be such a difficult message.

00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.759
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.259
It and I think the more we know, the less we fear.

00:35:23.759 --> 00:35:37.159
And that's what's important to me because it's the not knowing, you know, and maybe we are brought up in a religious aspect that has rules on, you know, whether or not our loved ones can even see us, you know, or like they absolutely don't see you.

00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:38.298
They don't hear you, blah, blah, blah.

00:35:38.460 --> 00:35:51.818
I mean, I've literally had that challenge come to me numerous times, you know, or, you know, it's, you know, there's so many different faiths and beliefs like, you know, I've heard people tell me that they're like at their Catholic Church when their child took their life.

00:35:51.818 --> 00:35:53.139
That's, oh, they're in limbo now.

00:35:53.219 --> 00:35:54.679
And I'm like, whoa, wait, what?

00:35:54.940 --> 00:35:56.099
There's nothing in limbo.

00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:09.639
You know, so, you know, it's, and those are the little things that like add up that I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, because heaven, the millisecond that we pass, the millisecond that we pass, we are absolutely in pure perfection for you.

00:36:10.019 --> 00:36:13.298
You are the one that it's, it's devastating for them.

00:36:13.818 --> 00:36:14.920
It's there, sit the heck down.

00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:21.679
Guess how I got back to heaven story and they are telling it where the, whether you're a part of it or whether you were not there, all those things.

00:36:21.798 --> 00:36:30.900
And everybody else in heaven is going, whoa, man, you went through it, you know, and it's just like a coming back together and an exciting story of their arrival back home.

00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.139
And for us, it's, it's in the human aspect.

00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:34.619
It's terrible.

00:36:34.859 --> 00:36:47.879
I always say, take a step back to spirit when you get into those difficult shoes and find the beauty in it, if you can, you know, and ask yourself where you've grown from those moments, you know, and, and that, that helps just a little.

00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:54.819
I say, you know, people focus on the way that they pass and the day that they pass so emphatically because that's where our pain is sitting.

00:36:55.759 --> 00:37:22.940
And if you can take that and acknowledge it and absolutely immersing it and feel it, you know, for that, for this moment and, and then pull it just and set it to the side and then try to replace that thought process with your favorite memory, the funniest moment that they ever gave you, nobody's ever going to take their passing moment from you, but giving it your focus every day will keep you in a place of pain.

00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:28.719
So if we're working on healing, just set the pain of their passing day here.

00:37:29.139 --> 00:37:38.719
So it's going to be at your side, scoop up your favorite memory of their love and your favorite moment and hold that for the, you know, even if it's for five extra minutes, then you would normally hold that.

00:37:38.980 --> 00:37:47.079
And you'll start to, you know, just really navigate your focus to the love and the presence that they have in your life because they're still around.

00:37:48.059 --> 00:37:48.159
Yeah.

00:37:48.379 --> 00:37:51.819
I love what you said about the more that we know, the less that we fear.

00:37:51.980 --> 00:37:53.900
And I find that'd be absolutely true.

00:37:54.179 --> 00:38:00.779
So like a lot of us that have even grown up in church, we hear about heaven, but it's such this like nebulous thing.

00:38:00.900 --> 00:38:03.920
We never hear what it's really like, you know, and I'll never forget.

00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:08.639
My, my poor mother was talking to her one time and she said, well, I hear there's milk and honey.

00:38:08.819 --> 00:38:10.219
I don't like milk and I don't like honey.

00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:11.319
And there's streets of gold.

00:38:11.539 --> 00:38:12.279
That sounds awful.

00:38:12.779 --> 00:38:18.379
So people take these metaphors and they, they take them literally because we have nothing else.

00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:29.460
So for people that are listening, I want to talk about where heaven is and what is so actually, if you look down where your floor is, where your feet are right now, that is earthly floor.

00:38:29.659 --> 00:38:30.980
That is, that is where my feet are.

00:38:31.420 --> 00:38:34.420
Heaven's floor is only three feet above our floor.

00:38:34.659 --> 00:38:36.879
They're in this space around us always.

00:38:36.879 --> 00:38:40.739
It's up, but it's not as up as everybody kind of, everybody's always looking to the stars in the sky.

00:38:40.879 --> 00:38:41.799
They are not past the stars.

00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:42.839
They are not past the sky.

00:38:42.980 --> 00:38:44.159
They are amongst you always.

00:38:44.859 --> 00:38:49.599
And, and I have a really kind of cool story to put into perspective, what heaven's home is like too.

00:38:50.539 --> 00:38:59.179
I had this friend growing up Kayo and I've told this story before too, but Kayo and Brian were these boys that lived around the corner for me growing up.

00:38:59.379 --> 00:39:02.239
And I spent a lot of time at their house.

00:39:02.379 --> 00:39:11.639
Again, it was, you know, it was the neighborhood, run around, play hide and seek, you know, and then they have the cool house that had the bonfire and the parents let everybody drink in the backyard, you know, when we were teenagers and all that stuff.

00:39:12.219 --> 00:39:20.239
But when we were growing up, when we were all approaching our early teens, Kayo and Brian's dad passed from a lung disease that was really, really difficult.

00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.900
Those boys were just at that pivotal moment of like finding their manhood.

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.879
They were turning into man cubs and then their dad passed and, and it was tough.

00:39:28.879 --> 00:39:35.259
And, you know, they, they kind of ran them up a little bit and we lost touch for a while.

00:39:35.619 --> 00:39:42.819
And then years later, Kayo found me on Facebook and it was really cool.

00:39:43.019 --> 00:39:46.940
But when we were kids, Kayo and Brian, Kayo would always say, you know what?

00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:57.259
Someday I'm going to have this majestic, like beautiful cabin and it's going to be like on this amazing mountain with this view that is just so cool, you know?

00:39:57.420 --> 00:40:02.339
And he's like, and I'm going to have a hot tub with hot chicks and bikinis inside my cabin.

00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:03.980
And I was like, wow, Kayo, that's cool.

00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:10.619
Like, you know, I just want to live on the beach, whatever, you know, like we were just talking about what we wanted, you know, when we, when we grew up.

00:40:11.099 --> 00:40:20.960
And so flash forward, Kayo finds me on Facebook years later and, and when he messaged me and we were chatting, I was like, man, how the heck have you been, you know?

00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:24.079
And he's like, man, I have that same lung disease my dad has.

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.059
And I knew what that meant because it was a very terminal lung disease.

00:40:27.259 --> 00:40:32.239
Your lungs just basically hardened and stop, you know, allowing your body to take in air.

00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:37.259
And so it was really kind of nice to be reconnected with him before he passed.

00:40:37.259 --> 00:40:39.920
And he did pass in his mid 40s.

00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:47.279
And it was really, really, you know, so sad because I grew up with those boys, man, we had a lot of fun together with parties in their backyard.

00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:51.920
And so I had a dream visit.

00:40:52.539 --> 00:41:01.019
And the dream visit is so profoundly like vivid in color versus just a regular dream that just kind of wonky and weird and goes in directions.

00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.879
But after Kayo passed, I had this dream visit.

00:41:03.879 --> 00:41:09.599
And I'm knocking on this big door at this cabin in my dream.

00:41:10.219 --> 00:41:12.440
And the door opens and it's Kayo.

00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.359
And when before Kayo passed, he had really lost all of his weight.

00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.019
He was just really just like so skinny.

00:41:19.219 --> 00:41:23.879
And you know, kind of like how a cancer patient would look, you know, if they had lost their ability to eat.

00:41:24.319 --> 00:41:29.259
And so as he opened this door in my dream though, Kayo looked beautiful.

00:41:30.059 --> 00:41:33.199
He was vibrant and healthy and amazing.

00:41:33.460 --> 00:41:36.239
And I was like, Oh my gosh, Kayo, you look so good.

00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.440
I couldn't get over it.

00:41:37.579 --> 00:41:42.139
I literally kept saying, and he's like, Come on Farrah, I got to show you the view.

00:41:43.059 --> 00:41:49.819
And I'm following him into this door and I'm walking behind him and I'm looking around this amazing cabin.

00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.539
And I'm like, God, this is really nice.

00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.679
And he's like, Come on Farrah, I got to show you the view.

00:41:54.779 --> 00:41:56.279
I'm like, Kayo, gosh, you look so good.

00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.159
This is, this is so cool.

00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:03.659
And as we're walking, he's walking me towards a back door of double doors, but we've got a little ways to walk.

00:42:03.799 --> 00:42:09.199
And as I look to the right and there's a damn hot tub with hot chicks and bikinis in this damn hot tub.

00:42:09.799 --> 00:42:12.480
And I'm like, Kayo, you have chicks and bikinis in your cabin.

00:42:12.980 --> 00:42:14.960
And he goes, I know, but come on.

00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:16.239
I got to show you the view.

00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:20.219
And he takes me to these double doors in the back and he opens them up.

00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.940
And I literally lost my breath.

00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:30.079
I was like, the colors were more beautiful than I'd ever imagined seeing.

00:42:30.259 --> 00:42:33.059
And the trees were nothing like we have here.

00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.339
And they were just the flowers, everything.

00:42:35.779 --> 00:42:38.839
And there was just this majestic mountain view.

00:42:39.739 --> 00:42:45.940
And I looked at him and I said, Kayo, this is what you told me about when we were kids.

00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.980
This is the cabin you said you always wanted.

00:42:49.659 --> 00:42:54.219
And he looked at me and he said, I know, but I didn't realize it was a home I already had in heaven.

00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:56.699
And I only came back to it when I passed.

00:42:56.879 --> 00:42:57.539
Oh, wow.

00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.960
It was the home he had before he came to live this life.

00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:09.440
It's why his focus was I really want this, this, this, this, this, our human filter filters out the knowledge that our soul existed in heaven before we came here.

00:43:09.839 --> 00:43:15.579
But it was such another, like, I get the most amazing examples of how to put heaven in perspective with my experiences.

00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:16.920
Heaven's like, they got me.

00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.179
So it was really cool.

00:43:19.339 --> 00:43:25.000
I messaged his mom and told I was like, Oh my gosh, you know, because I'm still connected with his mom and his brother.

00:43:25.299 --> 00:43:26.559
And yeah, so cool.

00:43:26.699 --> 00:43:26.859
Wow.

00:43:26.940 --> 00:43:27.579
I love that.

00:43:27.900 --> 00:43:37.879
I'm a little confused by something though, because I hear people say we don't have bodies in heaven, but then I hear that we can live in cabins and fish and hunt and golf or whatever.

00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:39.299
So how does that work?

00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.279
I mean, we don't have the peer we don't have solid bodies, but we have the appearance of having bodies.

00:43:44.539 --> 00:43:44.639
Yeah.

00:43:44.900 --> 00:43:45.900
We don't walk around as light bulbs.

00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:50.379
We do have an appearance and we can manifest anything.

00:43:50.779 --> 00:43:58.319
So, I mean, I literally do readings where they're showing me that they smoked in life and they're still smoking a cigarette in heaven and the cigarettes made of light.

00:43:58.319 --> 00:43:59.659
It's not the same impact.

00:43:59.759 --> 00:44:00.259
It doesn't stink.

00:44:00.359 --> 00:44:01.279
It's not causing cancer.

00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:06.059
And if it's something that they enjoyed in life, by all means, have your damn cigarette, um, you know, or a beer.

00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:14.279
I'll show, I'll see them toasting me with a beer, you know, or something, you know, so the things that when, when spirits have lived a life, not every spirit in heaven has lived a life.

00:44:14.379 --> 00:44:15.539
We're not made to live a life.

00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.219
It is our intention for our growth.

00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:28.299
And so when a spirit has lived a life, if they found a, you know, something that they enjoyed, like golf or off-roading or whatever, I mean, we can fly in heaven, so we don't need to off-road in heaven.

00:44:28.699 --> 00:44:29.000
You can.

00:44:29.819 --> 00:44:33.519
But, you know, you can manifest anything because it's just energy.

00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.159
And it's just, you know, so we have the ability to manifest anything.

00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.400
That's why, that's why everybody's like, oh my gosh, you know, I wish I had this.

00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:41.039
I wish I had this.

00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:41.799
I wish I had this.

00:44:41.799 --> 00:44:43.139
And I'm like, you know what?

00:44:43.319 --> 00:44:47.099
Just work hard for the things that you can attain in life and know that you need none of them in heaven.

00:44:47.819 --> 00:44:53.960
Um, because we have the ability to have anything that we desire and we don't have, we don't have greed in heaven.

00:44:54.179 --> 00:45:01.299
We don't have like, you know, needs to be the most fancy and all those things that vanity, you know, those things don't exist in heaven.

00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.079
We just do things with love.

00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:03.400
Yeah.

00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.940
But yeah, you can, you can golf, you can fish, you can do all those things.

00:45:07.059 --> 00:45:22.379
I mean, you're not actually killing and eating fish, you know, we actually don't have a need to eat in heaven, but we can manifest food in a party type setting to, you know, just enjoy space with others who that we, you know, may have shared lives with.

00:45:22.619 --> 00:45:25.839
So it's why food is such a reward here on earth.

00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:32.859
And people are like, that's so good, you know, because it is one of the rewards, but it's also got a hitch because right, you're here for growth and things are supposed to be hard.

00:45:32.859 --> 00:45:39.440
So it can make us have high cholesterol or, you know, gain weight or all those things, like everything that we, that we can enjoy here.

00:45:39.940 --> 00:45:41.799
And that's because it's life.

00:45:42.420 --> 00:45:42.819
Yeah.

00:45:44.379 --> 00:45:52.119
So I want you to tell the story that we started at the beginning, we kind of teased it, you know, the story in the motorcycle shop, because I think it's so profound.

00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:54.159
And I tell it to people all the time.

00:45:54.759 --> 00:45:56.319
This one does have one cuss word in it.

00:45:56.319 --> 00:45:56.779
Is that okay?

00:45:56.779 --> 00:45:57.440
Go ahead.

00:45:57.719 --> 00:45:58.819
Yeah, go for it.

00:45:59.099 --> 00:46:08.359
So, so I was newly dating my now husband, Jim, and we had known of each other at the phone company for 10 years, but we had never been together.

00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:13.219
And we had just started dating probably about three weeks in when he took me to the motorcycle shop.

00:46:13.339 --> 00:46:16.659
So there was a motorcycle shop in Mesa, in downtown Mesa.

00:46:17.179 --> 00:46:25.619
And it was a place that my husband, Jim, always spent time every day after work with his best friend who he, you know, calls his brother Kenny.

00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:27.099
And Kenny's actually now passed.

00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.879
So if, but Kenny would live, he lived at the bike shop.

00:46:31.879 --> 00:46:33.059
He lived at the motorcycle shop.

00:46:33.099 --> 00:46:33.960
It was knockout motorcycles.

00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:41.119
And he had a dog who was a pit bull, a red nose pit bull named poop Kenny did.

00:46:41.579 --> 00:46:43.819
And Kenny lived at the bike shop with poop.

00:46:43.819 --> 00:46:47.659
And he had an apartment built up in the rafters of this industrial bike shop.

00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:53.599
And he would come down every day and have a Budweiser in one hand and a wrench in the other and poop would sit and watch him wrench on the bikes.

00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.279
And my husband would go after work each day and spend time with his brother Kenny.

00:46:58.839 --> 00:47:02.139
And, um, and I, I'm, I'm not one that's an in charge.

00:47:02.299 --> 00:47:04.199
I need to stop you from hanging out with your friends.

00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.059
It's like, go, if you need to ride home, cause you drank, you need to park your bike.

00:47:07.059 --> 00:47:07.879
Like, let me know.

00:47:08.379 --> 00:47:10.179
Um, and have fun with your brother.

00:47:10.259 --> 00:47:11.960
See, when you get home, he's like, is there a catch to this?

00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.359
I'm like, no, but about three weeks in, he took me down to the shop to meet the boys.

00:47:15.859 --> 00:47:22.579
And I knew that that was an honor because again, I grew up in the good old boy cloth and, and I have a respect for men and their space and, you know, needing their boy time.

00:47:22.900 --> 00:47:24.519
And my husband wasn't out chasing skirts.

00:47:24.739 --> 00:47:27.619
He was hanging out with his brother who he always hung out with before me.

00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:28.819
So why was I going to change that?

00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.539
So I get there to the shop and I'm meeting all the boys and stuff.

00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:33.239
And it was great.

00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.119
And poop, the pit bull was staring in the corner of the shop.

00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:48.059
Um, not right away when he met me, but you know, later on in the conversation of hanging out and stuff and poop, staring in the corner and Kenny, my husband's brother, um, goes, and that dog freaks me out.

00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:49.639
He's always staring in the corner, you know?

00:47:49.839 --> 00:47:51.960
And, and I was like, I wasn't going to say anything.

00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.599
I was not going to mess this relationship up.

00:47:53.659 --> 00:47:56.319
My husband was just my boyfriend at the time and he was really good in bed.

00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:57.159
So there was that.

00:47:57.319 --> 00:48:00.019
And I, and I had never told him anything.

00:48:00.059 --> 00:48:01.139
We're only three weeks in.

00:48:01.379 --> 00:48:04.039
I never told my ex, you know, like never.

00:48:04.779 --> 00:48:08.539
And, um, so, you know, I didn't say anything that time.

00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:14.500
And, and, you know, he, Jim brought me back to the shop a few more times and I was getting in with the boys and that was great.

00:48:14.500 --> 00:48:22.379
Cause I do love the boy every time I just didn't want, didn't want to infringe on his and, um, about the third time back, you know, poop staring in the corner again.

00:48:22.500 --> 00:48:30.099
And he's just locked at like visually locked in the corner and you could not budge that Kenny goes, damn, that dog staring in the corner again, you know?

00:48:30.219 --> 00:48:31.179
And he's like, watch this.

00:48:31.279 --> 00:48:32.619
And he's like, poop, come on, man.

00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:33.379
You want some treats?

00:48:33.859 --> 00:48:35.480
Poop is a food driven dog.

00:48:35.799 --> 00:48:41.059
Poop wouldn't budge if he asked him if he wanted treats, he was just locked in the corner, just looking.

00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:46.039
And, and he's like, see, and he goes, that just freaks me out.

00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:52.940
And he turns around to me for whatever reason this day locks, Kenny locks eyes with me and he goes, what the fuck is that dog looking at?

00:48:53.839 --> 00:48:56.799
And for whatever reason I answered that day.

00:48:57.059 --> 00:49:01.319
And I said, well, there's a big dog with like a long face and big ears.

00:49:01.319 --> 00:49:02.759
It looks like a German shepherd.

00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:06.819
And I said, there's another one that's like smaller and it looks like a coyote.

00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:08.219
I don't know what else it would be.

00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:12.339
Um, and Kenny lost all the color in his face.

00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.859
And my boyfriend, who's not my husband, Jim lost all the color in his face.

00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:22.859
And he looks at Jim and Jim's looking at him and Kenny goes, did you say something to her?

00:49:23.379 --> 00:49:26.319
And Jim goes, well, fuck would I say that for?

00:49:27.359 --> 00:49:32.179
And I, he, he looks at me and he goes, hold on a second.

00:49:32.179 --> 00:49:40.319
And he goes to his toolbox and he pulls the drawer out and he's rifling around in there and he pulls out two pictures and he's like, this is Jake, my German shepherd.

00:49:41.019 --> 00:49:41.940
And this is pebble.

00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:42.980
She really is a coyote.

00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:49.219
I pulled her out of the desert when she was a pup and he go, she was abandoned by her pack and he's like, but they're dead.

00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:57.559
And I said, yeah, but they used to watch you wrench on the bikes when you had them and they still watch over you wrenching on the bikes and poop sees them in the corner.

00:49:58.539 --> 00:50:00.940
And he was like, whoa.

00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:10.739
And they were like, you know, and that was a lot for both of them to process, especially the one that was going home with me, but I always say I too am good in bed.

00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:11.699
So I kept him.

00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:26.799
And after that, yeah, it, it snowballed from there for me to be able to speak about it and to kind of share it in a way that I never want to be a parlor trick.

00:50:27.819 --> 00:50:35.440
I want to be on display just because look at what she can do, you know, which is why I don't want to do, you know, shows and things like that.

00:50:35.500 --> 00:50:36.400
I'm not a parlor trick.

00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.199
I'm here to help heal.

00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.960
And so that was going to be the foundation for me finding the ability to start sharing with the world.

00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.559
I love that story for so many reasons.

00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:47.440
I love it.

00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:49.099
It's kind of like your coming out story.

00:50:49.379 --> 00:51:02.579
It validates your ability, but it also validates the fact that our pets can see things that we can't see, because I think anybody that has a dog and I don't know about cats, but we see them staring off sometimes and you're like, what are you looking at?

00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.879
And you you'll try to even call that and they'll go right back to that spot.

00:51:06.759 --> 00:51:14.500
So pay attention when that happens to what pops at you when you're seeing that when you when you are seeing the dog go look at something.

00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:15.799
Do you go?

00:51:16.359 --> 00:51:17.500
I wonder if Shane is here.

00:51:18.759 --> 00:51:24.519
Because when you're hearing that in your thoughts, you're hearing Shane say, Hey, that's me.

00:51:24.579 --> 00:51:25.339
I'm messing with the dog.

00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:25.859
Okay.

00:51:26.379 --> 00:51:29.319
When when your dog's just having a fit and you're just pissed off about the fit.

00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:29.900
Yeah.

00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.019
It's just the moment that day, you know, you're like, hey, cut that crap out.

00:51:33.259 --> 00:51:36.839
But when your dog or cat, yes, cats can absolutely see spirit as well.

00:51:37.980 --> 00:51:40.819
I mean, all animals can actually horses, you know, there's there's no limits.

00:51:41.019 --> 00:51:42.719
Animals are actually super profound.

00:51:44.139 --> 00:51:48.819
But when I'd like to tell people because you hear heaven all the time and you just don't know it.

00:51:48.940 --> 00:51:59.799
So when you see that reaction from your pets happening and your thoughts go to your loved one, like I wonder if they're here, you're actually hearing them say I am here.

00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:00.619
Yeah.

00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:01.000
Yeah.

00:52:01.059 --> 00:52:03.159
So that that is soul communication.

00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:08.739
And that's so it's such a, you know, easy thing to miss for people.

00:52:08.739 --> 00:52:11.859
And it's why I try to like let you know, like you can hear them too.

00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.960
You have unbreakable bonds with your loved ones.

00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:15.319
Yeah.

00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:22.920
And it also validates what you said about heaven is three feet above the floor, which is nothing I tell people because we think of it as a far off place.

00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:33.659
It's just another frequency, which is why it can overlap with where we are and why our pets can see and we can't because they can see and hear things that we know that we can't see in here.

00:52:33.739 --> 00:52:42.759
Well, and you hear a lot of people say like, you know, so here's the thing like you hear somebody say like, Oh my gosh, I was in bed and I opened my eyes and I saw my grandmother floating in the room.

00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:43.980
Grandma wasn't floating.

00:52:44.379 --> 00:52:45.819
Grandma was just walking on heaven's floor.

00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:52.259
But it's it's an appearance of float because it's literally on our level just a little bit above, you know.

00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.379
So yeah, it's it's kind of cool.

00:52:54.599 --> 00:53:01.379
It's it's it's comforting knowing that they're so close and then people freak out like how much can I see and you know, I might mess with them and go, you know everything.

00:53:02.059 --> 00:53:04.139
But the truth is they had bodies once too.

00:53:04.219 --> 00:53:08.339
So they're not like sitting there watching you on the on the potty, you know, like, Oh, how's that going?

00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:09.339
You know, they don't care.

00:53:09.779 --> 00:53:15.980
They're seeing you as souls and and they they embrace your your private moments for you to be yours too.

00:53:16.059 --> 00:53:19.039
I mean, they're they're with you always, but they're not looking at it.

00:53:19.279 --> 00:53:19.579
Yeah.

00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:20.699
Yeah.

00:53:21.379 --> 00:53:21.480
Yeah.

00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:21.579
Yeah.

00:53:21.579 --> 00:53:24.059
It's not really a curiosity for at that at that point, right?

00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:24.679
No.

00:53:24.799 --> 00:53:25.059
Yeah.

00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:26.099
Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:26.779
So fair.

00:53:26.980 --> 00:53:31.500
I know that, you know, in addition to your mediumship and all your work with help parent, you've written four books.

00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.500
So tell people about your books.

00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:46.519
So my first book looking into the windows of heaven was, you know, just such a like I really wanted to introduce, you know, what heaven is and and where we come from and and talk about all the difficult subjects of loss as well, right?

00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.019
And, you know, so it was my first book.

00:53:49.539 --> 00:53:58.039
And then I went to onto heaven is within us because I felt like there was things that I didn't cover in the first book that I should add to the next one.

00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:08.799
I wanted to add some other difficult subjects like gay and transgender and all of those things to put soul perspective to those things because and I will stop on that subject really quick and then talk about the other ones.

00:54:08.980 --> 00:54:22.059
But, you know, when I say that we existed in heaven and we're all made in different light, we're each made male or female in heaven in spirit form, but we're not made to drive a car that matches the sex of the driver.

00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:36.559
And so, you know, giving people perspective and understanding of why that gay and transgender, you know, life was so very difficult to navigate is important for me too, because human judgment is meant to be and it's meant to be hard for them, unfortunately.

00:54:37.819 --> 00:54:39.440
But they write a profound life as well.

00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:40.819
And that is not an easy one to navigate.

00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.940
And then I wrote a teaching book.

00:54:45.319 --> 00:54:51.299
So Heaven's Voice is Within Your Soul, because I had so little support and I had no training.

00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:52.539
I've never taken a class.

00:54:52.859 --> 00:54:54.279
I've never done anything.

00:54:54.839 --> 00:54:55.559
I don't meditate.

00:54:56.859 --> 00:54:58.299
I don't do any.

00:54:58.539 --> 00:55:03.059
There's definitely a lot of things that I tried to find my footing and understand myself.

00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:05.199
I tried tarot cards and I was like, yep, don't need it.

00:55:05.319 --> 00:55:06.920
I tried crystals and like, what do these do?

00:55:07.099 --> 00:55:20.279
Like, I didn't need them, you know, and then I realized if I threw everything earthly out the window, because my connection is directly to Heaven, I didn't need earthly materialistic things to feel my connection.

00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:21.319
It's already there.

00:55:21.779 --> 00:55:27.679
So using those tools to find and develop and, you know, your abilities, not a problem.

00:55:27.900 --> 00:55:32.619
But if you realize that you have these built-in abilities and don't need any of those tools, it's an amazing thing too.

00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:40.079
I don't want to discount the tools because some people find comfort in using them to make themselves feel, you know, supported and that's cool too.

00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:46.199
But I wrote that book to really teach you to challenge yourself, you know, with your abilities.

00:55:46.339 --> 00:55:54.559
You may not have all the abilities that I have, but what if you can find one that you do have to find that extra connection with your loved one in Heaven yourself?

00:55:55.019 --> 00:55:55.199
Yeah.

00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:02.299
You know, and when I wrote that book, I remember my second stepmom that I had, she had said, why would you write that?

00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:03.319
You're going to lose business.

00:56:03.539 --> 00:56:05.799
Like, why would you write to teach other people to do this?

00:56:05.819 --> 00:56:13.039
And I looked at her and I said, you know what, if I could teach this entire world that they have unbreakable bonds and help them to find them, I'm blessed.

00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.679
But I knew it wasn't going to be the case.

00:56:15.839 --> 00:56:19.379
But if I, what if I could reach a few, you know, and that was important to me.

00:56:19.420 --> 00:56:21.019
I'm not here for me.

00:56:21.139 --> 00:56:22.159
I'm here for this.

00:56:22.460 --> 00:56:36.759
And so that was, and then my fourth book, which is the one that I would recommend above all books for any type of physical loss that you've ever had, is how do I live life when my child is in Heaven?

00:56:37.059 --> 00:56:47.339
And you can take the word child and, and use it for your child, or you can set the word child aside and use husband, wife, brother, sister, friend, whatever it is.

00:56:47.759 --> 00:56:52.139
That book, I wrote every bit of like, why do we live a life?

00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:53.579
What is our soul purpose?

00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:56.819
And soul planning is in that book.

00:56:57.139 --> 00:57:08.339
And, you know, and then I take you through baby loss at all levels, whether it's miscarriage or abortion or baby's born sleeping all the way to illness and disabilities.

00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:10.400
And what's the purpose of that in life?

00:57:10.579 --> 00:57:17.859
Like somebody that walks an illness and disability path is amazing because they're paving the way for others in their shoes.

00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:23.500
They're educating doctors on their spiritual journey for new knowledge in the future to help others.

00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:25.839
You know, not everybody does that.

00:57:25.839 --> 00:57:27.779
And that is not an easy path to walk.

00:57:27.879 --> 00:57:32.960
And when there's misdiagnosis that happens and all of those things in this earthly sense, those things are devastating.

00:57:33.099 --> 00:57:41.079
But the truth is, is that soul was riding their life to have this disability or to have this, you know, cancer journey or whatever it is.

00:57:41.659 --> 00:57:43.940
And they're writing to graduate from that.

00:57:44.179 --> 00:57:50.119
Then there's doctors, there's souls that are planning to be doctors saying, you know what, we heard you're going to graduate with your cancer.

00:57:50.759 --> 00:57:56.259
Do you mind keeping us in humble shoes on our journey because we hear there's a lot of ego in that earthly space.

00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:58.500
Is it okay if we make mistakes?

00:57:58.980 --> 00:58:06.199
Is it okay if we overlook things for you since you're going to graduate from that anyway so that you can keep us in humble shoes for patients later that we're meant to save.

00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.699
And, you know, so all of those soul plans are so intertwined.

00:58:10.099 --> 00:58:28.739
And then I covered addiction and also suicide and tragedy passings like car accidents or murders, you know, all those things, because the purpose behind them and understanding and finding the beautiful and every terrible, you know, even an addict, that is a terrible, terrible thing to navigate.

00:58:28.980 --> 00:58:30.879
I have two sisters who are addicts in life.

00:58:31.019 --> 00:58:40.059
They have navigated addiction and prison time and all of the things they have grown our family in ways that we would have never grown without their struggles.

00:58:41.099 --> 00:58:42.339
And the truth is they're beautiful.

00:58:42.759 --> 00:58:46.759
Now, that doesn't mean I want to invite them over for dinner and have their friends in my home.

00:58:46.879 --> 00:59:01.379
And, you know, so, you know, there's, there's things that come along with addiction that, that in the human sense are, are tough, but the truth is my sisters are beautiful for navigating that, that difficult journey and still navigating it, you know, they're both are and, and that's okay.

00:59:01.739 --> 00:59:08.019
Yeah, it's just, it's part of life and they're growing us and, and we're loving and supporting them through their difficult journey.

00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:09.019
So yeah.

00:59:09.579 --> 00:59:09.859
Yeah.

00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:10.739
Thank you so much.

00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:20.759
I mean, that's, you know, this, this conversation I love because there, there are several basic questions that, that I try to answer with this podcast is like, who are we?

00:59:20.940 --> 00:59:21.639
Why are we here?

00:59:21.779 --> 00:59:22.739
Where did we come from?

00:59:22.859 --> 00:59:23.559
Where are we going?

00:59:24.259 --> 00:59:33.980
And, and, you know, those are the four things and you've covered all of them, you know, in this, in this we go back to heaven, the millisecond that we pass, there is no layover.

00:59:34.179 --> 00:59:43.199
People say like all the time, like I've heard that you have to wait a certain amount of time to do a reading readings for you are, are really something that your heart is ready for.

00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.159
I've done readings the same day that somebody passed.

00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.579
And so there's no sense of time that you have to wait.

00:59:50.000 --> 01:00:00.139
But I always say, give yourself, give yourself space and time for healing, you know, find that connection within yourself, you know, as well, you know, but yeah, when, when they pass, they're perfect.

01:00:00.339 --> 01:00:01.199
It's you that's broken.

01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:14.920
And, and so give yourself time and compassion, you know, to, to have an understanding of just at least getting through the fog, you know, because it grief is so difficult, but they are perfect.

01:00:15.219 --> 01:00:16.199
Yes, they can hear you.

01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:17.440
Yes, they can see you.

01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.159
Yes, they are part of your days.

01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:38.400
I challenge everyone's loved ones in my readings to give me like, okay, tell me what, tell me something that your family just did that, you know, like is new and you know, that's not on social media and all that, you know, here's the thing, I have to work around social media and Google and everything when I'm doing readings, because I want to give you faith that care that, that they carry on.

01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.159
If I know all your crap, they've got to give me more than I know.

01:00:42.539 --> 01:00:42.679
Yeah.

01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:50.279
Or that anybody else would know, you know, so like, it's, it's interesting what they'll come up with, but they want to validate their presence with you.

01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:54.460
They want you to know that they're still with you and they're not held back by your tears.

01:00:56.019 --> 01:00:57.299
That's all you want.

01:00:57.619 --> 01:00:59.679
Don't ever let anybody tell you that you can't cry.

01:00:59.799 --> 01:01:01.460
Cause I can tell you that your tears are made of love.

01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:04.259
You're not holding them back from anything.

01:01:04.579 --> 01:01:06.879
They cannot be held back from heaven actually.

01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.579
So, you know, if anything, they're encouraging your smile.

01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:19.779
They're encouraging you to carry on and reach your dreams because their life passing was not meant to defeat you and stop you from your sole purpose for yourself.

01:01:20.579 --> 01:01:27.719
And, you know, but part of your sole purpose for yourself is walking and navigating through your grief and they know that you're doing that.

01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:28.900
They're proud of you.

01:01:29.619 --> 01:01:35.599
You know, they're just like, wow, look at them go, you know, and maybe you couldn't do Christmas this year because it was too hard.

01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.019
That doesn't mean they're not with you for Christmas.

01:01:38.839 --> 01:01:40.839
Um, they'll still hang out with you with no tree.

01:01:41.719 --> 01:01:43.319
Um, and that, and they're fine with that.

01:01:44.319 --> 01:01:51.699
So so Farrah, um, is there anything that you wanted to talk about today that I haven't had a chance to ask you?

01:01:52.259 --> 01:01:53.379
Gosh, I don't know.

01:01:53.460 --> 01:02:03.059
I think that we've covered most of the things, actually, I think if there's anything you want me to speak on, I'm here, but no, I, again, I think you've done an excellent job.

01:02:03.299 --> 01:02:07.739
I think we've come kind of full circle and answered, you know, the basic questions that I, that I like to answer.

01:02:07.900 --> 01:02:14.019
We talked about, you know, your, your abilities we've talked about and I, people can tell because, you know, there's, there's this thing.

01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:19.500
Some people say, well, all mediums are, they're frauds there, you know, and, and I, I've known you for years.

01:02:19.500 --> 01:02:25.980
I've known several meetings for years and I can guarantee that mediums are absolutely real and are here to serve.

01:02:26.519 --> 01:02:34.379
You know, there is, there it's unfortunate because there are so many mediums out there who are not authentic.

01:02:34.619 --> 01:02:48.279
And, and that is where that reputation comes from because there are truly blessed people in this world that are really living the purpose of helping this world to carry on, on their soul journeys.

01:02:48.739 --> 01:02:52.500
And, and, and I'm blessed to be one of them, but I am not the only one.

01:02:53.059 --> 01:02:56.659
There's a lot of beautiful souls out there who are definitely beautifully connected.

01:02:56.900 --> 01:03:00.319
But then there's the people who are like the woo woo into the oogie boogie.

01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:03.099
And they think that like spirituality is so cool.

01:03:03.099 --> 01:03:06.019
So they start studying it a little bit and they're like, I'm a medium.

01:03:07.059 --> 01:03:10.779
And then they say the things like, oh, sorry, could make a connection for you today.

01:03:10.799 --> 01:03:13.799
Cause your kids stuck in limbo, kindly throw punch them.

01:03:15.659 --> 01:03:22.079
Don't ever let anybody give you anything in a reading that makes you feel like there's turmoil.

01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:27.619
A reading with an authentic medium should feel like a visit with heaven.

01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:37.839
It should feel like it is just, I should almost kind of disappear in, in that connection because you're feeling them so profoundly.

01:03:37.940 --> 01:03:39.619
It's like you're talking to them.

01:03:40.259 --> 01:03:41.920
That's what's important to me.

01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:42.179
Yeah.

01:03:42.179 --> 01:03:43.940
But there is, I mean, it is the day and age of Google.

01:03:44.099 --> 01:03:45.579
You guys, we can't control that.

01:03:45.940 --> 01:03:49.539
I have people all the time, like that will book three people deep because they don't want me to know who they are.

01:03:49.579 --> 01:03:50.159
I'm like, I don't care.

01:03:50.299 --> 01:03:50.960
Heaven knows who you are.

01:03:51.059 --> 01:03:51.379
Go ahead.

01:03:52.500 --> 01:03:57.539
But even if I do a reading for one of my own friends, I will just challenge them.

01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:58.839
Give me stuff that I wouldn't know.

01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:09.920
So if there's things that you have on social media and you're going to like be booking with a medium and you like put everything out there on your social media, set your social media account as private guys.

01:04:10.319 --> 01:04:21.019
I mean, there's steps that you can take to ensure that nobody's able to look you up in that sense, and they shouldn't be only giving you things that could be found on social media.

01:04:21.279 --> 01:04:26.319
You know, like if you did a balloon release or something last week and then, you know, you posted pictures or whatever.

01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:27.460
We're not doing balloons anymore.

01:04:27.619 --> 01:04:27.759
I know.

01:04:27.859 --> 01:04:28.019
Sorry.

01:04:28.259 --> 01:04:28.719
Sorry birds.

01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:34.219
You know, but if you did something, you know, and then they're bringing that up first.

01:04:34.259 --> 01:04:42.179
Yeah, you know, they might've looked you up or whatever, you know, but heaven is capable of giving us things that nobody would know.

01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:48.659
And it may be silly crap, like, wow, like you just had to reset the toilet in the master bathroom, you know?

01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:53.779
And it's little things like that that I love it when they show me, they're like, so how did you know that?

01:04:53.839 --> 01:05:02.900
Because that's not something they told the world, you know, well, and I've seen you fair in a room with hundreds of people and you don't know who's going to be in that room and you'd say things like that.

01:05:03.059 --> 01:05:06.219
So there's there's just just not even humanly possible.

01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:25.480
Ryan's Chris Ryan's, you know, which, you know, I'm so proud of Chris's growth, but that's seven minutes, that's seven minutes that I went to he and send, you know, at that conference and his son was talking about him redoing the deck and how he had screwed it up and he started pouring the resin and it didn't match.

01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:30.759
And, you know, and that was Chris's like, oh my gosh, this was not on social media.

01:05:30.759 --> 01:05:32.460
This was there's no way she would know this.

01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.519
I didn't even know who, you know, I've never even met Chris and sin before that.

01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:39.699
That was it's funny because most of the people at the conference know who Farah is.

01:05:39.699 --> 01:05:52.299
And I love the ones that don't because sometimes they get the most beautiful aha moments and seeing Chris's growth from that moment to, you know, because he was just there with his wife.

01:05:52.739 --> 01:05:58.719
So, you know, like to support and then he moved to a place of support for dads and for the group.

01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:10.619
And I'm so proud of him and writing the Helping Fathers heal book with the dads and yeah, like and that and that is an example of like you said earlier, you don't want to be a part, you're not a parlor trick.

01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.400
The purpose of mediumship is healing.

01:06:13.879 --> 01:06:16.039
The purpose of mediumship is making connection.

01:06:16.259 --> 01:06:16.559
It's healing.

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It's not it's not a it's not a magic trick.

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It's not a mentalist thing.

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It's so the people can have faith that their loved one is okay that they want us to continue.

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It's a beautiful thing.

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It's a ministry.

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It's a service.

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It is.

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You know what?

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My boss is God and I'm blessed for that.

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And, you know, you guys can call it anything that you like.

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Please know that I am so respectful of everybody's choice and words and religion and all of those things.

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But I absolutely am blessed to have the most amazing boss that just puts me in the right place at the right time.

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For a need and and that's what's important because there's nothing like, you know, walking I was walking in a grocery store and this lady came running at me and she grabbed a hold of me trembling and crying and she said, Farah, you saved my life.

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And I have had so many people say those words to me.

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Some of them I haven't even done readings for you guys.

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Some of them it's just they've read what I've written and it saved their life.

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So the purpose behind everything that I've written is truly inspired by heaven.

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Every word and the I do have that one here.

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The how do I live life when my child is in heaven book.

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This one every single word in this book is inspired by heaven.

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It was an ask of heaven like literally and I talked about that in the book as well.

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But yeah, it'll help you to find the beautiful and the terrible.

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Yeah, well I know you're really busy and really popular.

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Do you still take people for readings?

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I do.

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I'm I'm scheduling typically 8 months out at a time.

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So you know people have to be patient when it comes to getting into my schedule.

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But I always say an honest reading is truly worth the wait.

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If you feel like you can't wait 8 months do your research on the person you are scheduling with.

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Most mediums will have a bit of a wait.

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I mean in some of them I mean gosh you guys when I started I was an honest medium and I didn't have a wait at all.

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You know what I mean?

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So something maybe new in their footing and not have you know too much of a wait.

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But do your research.

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You know talk to people you know you guys can you know probably I if it's child passings you can get on helping parents hit a website.

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They have you know tested the mediums and they have a list of trusted mediums or post on social media and ask if anybody you know as long as you're okay with posting about a medium because some people get blasted from depending on who's on your page right.

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But you know talk to your people ask them who they've had an honest experience with.

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But an honest reading is truly worth the wait and and and again I'm not the only one who can give an honest reading.

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But I have a style that's a little bit different than some because I grew up in that good old boy cloth.

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I don't have a filter.

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So if your loved one was cussy let's roll.

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And you know and I have a no BS style because and I'll tell one more story in where that foundation of that no BS style came from too is.

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So I told you about the bike shop and the poop story and it was just a few months later after that happened we got a call that one of our buddies from the bike shop had just lost his best friend to suicide that day.

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We needed to get on the bikes roll down to the bar because he was by himself at the bar and we needed to get down to the bar to be there for him.

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And so we did so Kenny from the bike shop jumped on his bike.

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I jumped on the back of Jim's bike and we rolled down to this bar and our buddy Rudy is sitting at the bar and he's by himself and he's drinking beer and he is not in a good place.

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His best friend Beaver took his life left a letter of love for Rudy and some of his materialistic things for Rudy and Rudy was not processing this well.

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And I was just sitting at the table letting the boys be there for him.

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Really not much needed to be said.

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They just needed to be present for him.

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And we needed to get him out of the bar and get him back to the shop.

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So we sat there for a little bit and as we're sitting there and the boys are just interacting with him I'm hearing his buddy who passed.

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Tell him I love him.

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Tell him I'm with him.

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Tell him I love him.

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Tell him I'm with him.

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Tell him I love him.

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Tell him I'm with him.

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And it's just over and over in my you know spirit like mine you know like communication and I'm just sitting there acting like nothing's going on like I'm not hearing this and I'm telling his buddy F you dude.

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If you want me to tell him something like that you need to give me something that will catch his attention that I would not know because if I reach across this stupid table right now and say to him Rudy he loves you and he's with you.

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Anybody could say and I learned that that fluff isn't healing and you know and so for that reason I will not say it first.

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I might say it at the end and I will say it at the end but I have to validate their presence first.

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So he I said you give me something that I could tell Rudy that I wouldn't know and he showed me a big cores like can and a big F you to Budweiser and he showed me them going out target shooting together but only one time like they went out target shooting in the desert and I was like okay fair enough not my place to judge what they're giving me it's just my place to say it.

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Well in the bar it was not the place to say it so I waited and we got Rudy out of the bar and we got him back to the bike shop and now we're at the bike shop and Rudy needed some air and he went out front on the pillar at the industrial you know plaza that we were at and was sitting outside with his hands in his face and I told my then boyfriend Jim you know I said hey I need to go talk to Rudy really quick and he goes Rudy doesn't need any mothering and I already knew that and I said yeah you know that weird thing that I did you know a little and he's like oh go go do it well the cool thing is you know I mean I get it you know because Rudy didn't need any mothering right then and I understand how guys work with their emotions but he needed this moment and so I went outside and he didn't pull his head out of his hands and he and I kneeled down in front of him and I put my knees on my hands on his knees and I said Rudy and he didn't budge and I said um you went target shooting with beaver but only one time didn't you and he pulls his head out of his hands and he goes how the f did you know that and I said well and he was showing me a big course light and a big f you to Budweiser and he smiled and he goes that's root that's beaver and I said now I can tell you that he loves you and he's with you so catching his attention was something I wouldn't know helped me to deliver the message love because you guys literally everybody's always like what's their big message for me I feel like they need to get a message across but I feel like they have no need none their message is always I love you I'm with you I see you and it's our place to validate that right yeah yeah awesome I love that thank you for sharing that story yeah how can people reach you so through my website Farrah Gibson.com F-A-R-A four letter word F-A-R-A-G-I-V-S-O-N dot com is my website I keep my phone number private guys because my phone would go off the hook all day but honestly my Facebook page even if you never book a reading Farrah Gibson psychic medium again it's F-A-R-A four letter word yes I was named after Farrah Fawcett but dad couldn't spell you know and if you go to that page you guys I put so much love into that page and I write and share so much every day to cover every grief topic that there is because even if the world never books a reading with me maybe I can help you with a poem that I've written my poems you guys are all inspired by heaven and I typically write them from the perspective of heaven to you and it's not by chance if you come across one of those poems and you feel your loved one in it because they made sure you saw it and yeah I write and share a lot on that page that's really the best page to start and again that book how do I live life when my child is in heaven is the best place to start to get a complete foundation of like soul planning and why we do this and all of that background and jazz I want to confirm your Facebook page you're so generous you do give away so much with your writing and stuff there so people as you said if you never book a reading with Farrah go and follow her on Facebook at a minimum Farrah thank you so much for doing this I know you're crazy busy so I really appreciate it I really appreciate you having me and I was just teasing about not getting me in your schedule sooner you know what this was perfect timing thank you so much Brian for having me and thank you for all you do you're amazing you're amazing you have turned your grief into lifting others and I'm so proud of you thank you appreciate that enjoy the rest of your day yeah you too bye