Healing Inherited Patterns with Dr. Lotte Valentin | EP 473

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Close your eyes and imagine What if the things in life that cause us the greatest pain the things that bring us grief are challenges Challenges designed to help us grow to ultimately become what we were always meant to be we feel like we've been buried, but what if like a seed we've been planted and Having been planted we grow to become a mighty tree now Open your eyes Open your eyes to this way of viewing life Come with me as we explore your true infinite eternal nature This is grief to growth and I am your host Brian Smith Hi there.

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I'm Brian Smith I'm gonna welcome you to grief to growth where we explore life's biggest questions who we are why we're here and where we're going So whether this is your first time tuning in you've been walking in this path for me for a while I'm really glad you're here today This show is a safe space to help you navigate grief and discover the hidden opportunities for growth and transformation that life presents us Even as much as most challenging moments today I'm thrilled to welcome back someone who started deeply resonated with me and so many of you in 2022 It's dr.

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Lottie Valentin, and she first joined us in episode 210 way back in May of 2022 If you remember that conversation your car recall how her two near-death experiences Turned her from a staunch atheist into an evidential medium a medical doctor and an internationally known spiritual teacher Her journey from tech analyst to intuitive healer starting medical school at age 54 was nothing short of extraordinary So if you haven't listened to the episode, it's episode 210 It's been May of 2022.

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I encourage you to go back and listen to it in today's episode Dr. Lottie returns to share what's unfolded since we last spoke and it's really powerful We'll dive into the Kendraya method her unique form of ancestral healing rooted in ancient wisdom and spiritual science You'll hear how she's helping people Unlock long buried patterns some passed down through generations and heal at a soul level We'll also explore her light mapping system a transformative tool helps individuals find alignment in body Mind and spirit and we'll talk about how why healing even one soul can create ripple effects across an entire family line and even in humanity as a whole So whether you're carrying inherited trauma, you're seeking deeper healing or you're curious about what lies beyond this life.

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Dr Lottie has wisdom for you She brings science soul and spirit together in a way that's grounded as accessible and is profoundly healing And as always I invite you after the episode to continue the conversation at grief to growth that substack calm You'll find an article there on today's show and you can comment reflect and interact with me and with other listeners So let's welcome back to grief to growth.

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Dr. Lottie Valentin Thank You Brian, it's such a pleasure to see you again Yeah, it's great to see you again, too.

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We were just saying before we got started.

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It's been three years You know time is just is really crazy the way that it works Right, I mean seems like yesterday but on the other hand seems like 10 years ago because I mean time has just been flying For the past three years and so many things have happened in how I work What you know and we're gonna be talking about the can dry and the light mapping system and it's just fascinating how all of it really began with my near-death experience and you know, we all came here to do something and Sometimes we don't know what that is and we sort of just blindly walk through life But at some point right some of us say hmm, wait a second Now I understand why it is that I had to go through that.

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Why did I have have a near-death experience?

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Why did I have to be sick for 12 years?

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Why did I have to go through all that?

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well from that came who I am today and Now it's my turn to give back to the people and help other people just like just like you right?

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It's it's the traumatic events sometimes that propel us in a new direction Yeah, that's that I think it's very true.

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I know it's true.

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I've seen it my own life and other people's lives as well So I did refer people back to the episode but for people that weren't able to listen to it or haven't heard before Could you just quickly summarize kind of the things that you went through that led you to to do what you're doing now?

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Yeah, we'll do a quick recap.

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So I had two near-death experiences one was in 1992 and one was in 1994 and the first one happened ten days after I had given birth and I was hemorrhaging and The ER kept sending me home.

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Well, eventually luckily I hemorrhaged to death in the ER Luckily I was in the ER and that was my first near-death experience and I left my body you know up to the ceiling and had this epiphany of You know, everything is fine on the other side.

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It's just peace and and love and The next morning I started hearing the spirit world and my sister-in-law had just passed away and I had no belief system in place to believe in the spirit world to I didn't believe in anything.

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I thought you die It's black you're gone.

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So the next morning I hear my sister-in-law and she says everything's gonna be okay I'm literally thinking this is it.

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I've lost my mind like what is going on and How could I be outside my body and still be me well this whole event led to what's called a bone marrow suppression so I had this blood disorder for that lasted well for six years, I barely left my house and For another six years.

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I thought I was never gonna be normal again and 12 years later I went to my you know, I started doing my pre-reqs for medical school But that second near-death experience happened when I was really sick and I had this Blood disorder and I literally didn't have an immune system and I left my body But the second experience I was shown what I called at the time because this was 1994 and we didn't have Google yet and we couldn't put into Google grid around the earth right now You can put grid around the earth show me an image and you'll see something that looks very very similar to what I was shown And to me at the time it looked like a silvery glittery fishnet but What I was told was that everything on earth is connected to each other but everything on earth is connected up to this grid and That is literally what my work has become today, right?

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But then of over several years those 12 years I kept here in the spirit world and I would know things before they happened and I thought it was all Coincidences and I would write things down.

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I would have a book and write things down so I could say Okay, this is not a deja vu.

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I this happened two days ago.

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I had this dream or I saw this I had an image and I could verify my own experiences so after 12 years with these training wheels on that's when I was guided to go to medical school and then I went to medical school and I was 54 and then graduated and as soon as I got out was sent met a woman that you know in a training for craniosacral therapy and She was a medium and she had trained at Arthur Fielding College and she said somebody is here that wants to give you a message and it was my mom and I was told I have to go to Arthur Fielding College and study mediumship and I didn't really understand why and I went back and forth several times over two or three years and But now I understand why because I had to develop the skill.

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I had to hone the skill So for all these years I had received messages from the spirit world But they were related to my life or or people I knew But I didn't know even that it was possible to bring in a loved one for somebody else until I went to Arthur Fielding College So it is the combination of my medical education my mediumship training That has led me now to work with ancestral healing to help people create healing in their own lives Wow, that's quite a journey and I can only imagine that at that age to say Medical school that how did that land with you or and with your family?

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So, I know it is kind of an interesting topic So the interesting part is that my father was a general practitioner And my mom went back to work when I was 12, and I was the fourth kid.

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I was the last kid So she she was a like a hospital floor administrator So the first person you see when you go to the hospital who sits at that desk and then guides you to don't know It's room 45 49 down that hallway.

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That was my mom and she just worked part-time But my parents friends were all doctors and the wives were all nurses.

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So my whole childhood I grew up hearing my parents talk about medicine non-stop 24-7 and if they had friends over they would talk about medicine You know this patient with this I don't know what it is and none of the labs are coming back Everything says normal, but there's something wrong.

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All right, so I grew up listening to all these conversations and I always wanted to be a doctor, but it was really hard and then you had to major in science and in high school I said no, it's more important to have friends because studying science in high school There was only I think one other girl that was going to go to science.

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We major in high school So I said forget that I'm not gonna have any friends So I majored in languages and business in high school, and then I met an American He was an exchange student in my high school Ended up marrying this American and coming to the United States when I was 21 So my whole life changed and then I ended up he had a year left at college at Boston University So while he was finishing his last year, I worked as the departmental secretary for biomedical engineering And I would type, you know, this is before we had computers So you would have to type the research papers on a typewriter and I didn't even know what I was typing It's all the words and scientific terms.

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I had no knowledge.

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I had, you know school school learned English So anyway to make a long story short, I transferred into Boston University majored in business and computer science again, I said You know I really want to be a doctor or maybe I should be a nurse like dad told me because it's school is not as long and you know, you could be a nurse and The science classes were just so intimidating because I didn't have the command of the language yet So I said no, I'm just gonna do business.

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I know about business I know about computers because I worked in that engineering school so majored in business and computer science and went to work for IBM as a Programmer and systems analyst in Westchester County, New York.

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So and that's where that's where my life sort of started So I've come a long way it's been a long a long journey But you know now I understand that all these experiences were just part of who it made me in the end, right?

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it's being able to relate to people that work in that environment and then I Had you know, I was sick and I had all my spiritual experiences and before I was still taking my pre-reqs for med school I went back and got a job as a sales rep in the biotech industry And sold cancer detection and then I became the national sales manager For that company that sold cancer detection and then I went to med school Right, so you can it's interesting.

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So when people say, you know, I feel stuck or I need to change my career There is nothing that's stopping you from doing that.

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You just have to take small baby steps, right?

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I tell people to start take any course at the college to get yourself back into that environment I don't care if it's basket weaving, but it is, you know, people often feel trapped in what they're doing They have to pay the bills you have kids at home Make a long-term plan your kids are eventually going to grow up right and move out And be ready to make that transition at that point, but you know to make a change also takes years of planning It you know, I wasn't taking so many pre-rec classes to get into med school All the chemistry all the but you know by the chemistry the organic chemistry biology physics math and all the things I didn't have so and it was no guarantee I was gonna get in but Hey, you got to put one step in front of the other in order to get forward in life Yeah, I love that I love that your life is a perfect illustration of the nothing's not ever lost, right?

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You take these skills that you learn from one thing you roll it over to the next thing and you don't even know how it's Also, it's never too late to make to make that change, you know, sometimes we feel as you said that we're stuck So you've you've made this incredible Transition, but also it's still still healing, you know from the medical thing to to the mediumship to what you're doing now It's still hit still healing.

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So since the last time we spoke three years ago, how have things changed for you since then?

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So things have changed a lot Because I have really been guided to work with ancestral healing and now I understand why it was that I was shown that grid Around the earth that silvery I call it the silvery glittery fishnet because I grew up in Sweden and rowing the boat for my grandmother laying the nets in the ocean and when you lift that net out those little water Droplets on the fishnet sort of sparkle in the morning sunlight so but you know, it's Having to gone, you know gone through all that That's what guided me to to enters ancestral healing and it's part of that journey is the mediumship.

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So When I was doing so it really got me interested in in Ancestral healing I I swear the spirit world just kind of knock on our door and and tap us on our shoulder and says hey I'm gonna show you a couple of things and we keep wondering why things keep repeating or why things keep appearing Right, I feel like that's the spirit world saying hey over here Here's your baby carrot go in this direction, right?

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Because I was doing I was working as a as a medium I was I was still in practice in my clinic and I was doing mediumship readings on the side and I had like three or four readings in a row Right when you start thinking am I talking to the same spirit that I talked to yesterday?

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no, this is a different spirit right because the message was the same and That the pattern was the same and it was almost the identical readings for four different peoples and four different places on earth and It started with the grandmother coming in and then I would say your grandmother, you know, it feels like a motherly figure it feels like you know, like it could be a mom or a grandmother if it's more like a grandma and this person had a really difficult life and had a lot of like Abuse from the grandfather and one or not it and Then I would see three children and then I would say I see three children So, you know your mom is one of these children and she married somebody just like her dad and that was your father And he was also abusive in one way or another and the client would say yes That is exactly correct, right and this happened that literally four times in a row four readings in a row I said what what is it with this pattern repeating and why is that I'm getting the same kind of reading that's has never Happened you get the same kind of reading is usually they're very different And I had been already been drawn to ancestral healing and so I started studying ancestral healing which is a form of counseling and I started learning how the patterns get passed down from one generation to the next.

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Well now that has Evolved even more because when I work as an ancestral healer I don't just use the counseling method or the theoretical or you know, the cognitive mind thinking I I integrate that with my mediumship skills and Somatic awareness or intuitive abilities.

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So when I work as an ancestral healer, I integrate Both my my learned method of how patterns typically show up, but also You know, sometimes we don't know Sometimes I'll be working with someone who says well Most people will say I there's a part of the family.

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We don't know.

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Well, right.

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It's very common either you Nobody has a real good grasp on everybody in the family.

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There's always aunts and uncles and people we didn't talk about But when you tune into that sometimes, you know, you use your mediumship skills or somatic awareness You can say, you know, it feels like it's your father's side or the client says I feel like it's my mom's side Right, that is that intuitive awareness that we have we know where our struggles originate So if for example you have you feel you say well, I don't feel seen and heard in my relationship Right common one Well, why is it that you don't feel seen and heard?

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Now if you just use your cognitive Awareness, you'll say well because I'll do the dishes and you know My partner never does the dishes and I asked for help, but they still don't do the dishes and they don't listen, right?

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But we have to go lower.

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We have to take it one step further and say Why am I even having this experience and when you start looking at the ancestral patterns?

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They always emerge.

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I Feel like there is nothing at this point in my journey.

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I feel like everything is tied Somehow to our ancestors because we come from the ancestors.

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We carry their DNA, right?

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We have you got 50% of mom's DNA and 50% of dad's DNA.

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So you come from your ancestors physically but also there is this you know that the quantum physics Right where we are all connected through time and space And the soul right the soul is forever there the soul comes and inhabits this body right right now my soul is living in this body and when this body is Not functioning anymore.

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Just like my computer my my or my phone my phone.

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I drop my phone It's destroyed it It gets the screen crashes and I have to get a new phone you go to the store you get a new phone And what do they do now?

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They download all your stuff from the cloud, right?

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The soul of your phone is sitting in the cloud But that's kind of how we are too Because when I had my near-death experience, I was still me when I was outside my body I was still me So the body is just a container for the soul and the soul is forever there so You know that we don't it's just it's just the the body that that disappears that dies Just like the phone dies and we get a new phone But all your content on the phone the soul of the phone it does download it, right?

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So I always feel like our soul is literally living in the cloud Right with the soul is in the cloud and You know when it's time to reincarnate it comes downloads itself into a new a new container a new body for a new experience so I feel like we you know We're all interconnected that way and all the souls in our soul families our friends We're all part of a greater a greater system a divine System that we can't really put our finger on because we're stuck in this body, right when they put me back in my body It's like they stuffed me back into a little matchbox It's like all of a sudden you don't have that access you just feel like you've got shrunk down So but that's how we got how we have this experience because we're having you know This earthly human experience and if we had access to all of that on the other side We wouldn't have that experience the same way.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, that's a great way of looking at it.

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I love the the cell phone analogy I think it might be the first time heard that you know, you're absolutely right It's like it's so easy now you get you get a new phone and you just you know That phone basically becomes the same phones you had before different hardware, but it's all the same information And when it comes to ancestral healing, you know, we of course we know now about DNA We know that's passed down But as you as you alluded to it seems to be more this passed down than just the physicality of who we are There's you know, I know there's some some new work now with epigenetics where people are saying it's not just the DNA.

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It's also Experiences that can be passed back and forth between generations.

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Yeah So they know from DNA studies that trauma gets passed down on the DNA So they have done studies on Holocaust survivors where they can see the Genetic markers that are passed down.

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They've identified.

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I think one of the first ones was fkbp5 gene, right?

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it's like They have more than one marker now and they can see that trauma is actually passed down and things change, right?

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So if your ancestors had traumatic experiences of some sort They're their epigenetics is going to now change They're gonna code for a different gene to make the offspring have a better chance of survival and they've done studies they've done studies with mice and I'm trying to remember what the study was called epigenetic and epigenetic inheritance of ancestor older fear conditioning It was led by Brian Diaz And it was a study that it was published in the nature of nurse nature of neuroscience, I believe in 2013 but it was a study that was led by Brian Diaz and What they did is they took sperm from a first day first They took the male mice and they shocked them They let them smell a smell like a cherry blossom smell every time the mice smell the cherry blossom smell they would give him a little shock and After they did that a couple of times, of course the mice said of cherry blossom smell, you know stay away Then they took the sperm from this mice and the artificially inseminated the female mice So that didn't even get to meet the female mice They just took the sperm and then the offspring of the female mice those pups Were you know jumpy and nervous around the cherry blossom smell even though they had never experienced a shock Themselves and so you can see, you know, even so they're doing studies on mice But they also have identified genes of the Holocaust survivors where they can see different things that happen that gets passed down and You know these different traumas are going to set off You know people who have been starved people who were survived concentration camp and things like that their expression their genetic expression is gonna Change and so when they have offspring right now, they have grandchildren But because those epigenetic changes happen to their DNA They can actually be their studies out saying that they can be more liable to have different kind of diseases because of The code decoding of their you know, their ancestors change the genetic expression so, you know We think that we're here and we're unaffected by our ancestors But that is just one component, right?

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The DNA is just one component of who we are because there is also The interconnectedness right through the through the grid or through interest net Which is an old Teaching about how we're all interconnected and we're all like a node on this net and we're all reflecting our experiences back and forth And so we're part of this greater Soul, I mean everything isn't connected in the end We are you were connected to everybody in your family, but also to everybody that your family knows Right, so you're connected to your to your father Look, obviously you came from him But all the people he knew even when he went to school when he was a child that are not even alive anymore Right, you're connected to that person and to all the people that that person knew right?

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So just think of how wide this net is because we're all just part of the the greater divine Source in the end and we're all interconnected Yeah, well, you know, that's a really good point because we've gotten so in our society, especially in the u.s We're so individualized.

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We think you know Everything's me everything starts and ends with me I'm here more of these concepts and you mentioned enters net which is an ancient concept that we seem to be starting to come back around to and Then some of the cutting-edge stuff that says that yeah what happened to my grandparents affects me literally physically today Yeah, no, it does and it does so more than we think right when we also look at the that people that got the Nobel prize in physics I think that was in 2023.

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There were three physicists that Received the Nobel Prize in physics and they discovered the interconnectedness of the different atoms so if you have if you have two atoms and then you have another set of two atoms and Only one item from each pair meet right the other two items that were left behind are still now Interconnected because just like we were saying you're your soul family, right?

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Because one member of the of the pair met but that that member was part of this other pair And so now the pairs that got left behind right those single atoms They're still connected and whatever affects one item is going to affect the other one and that's what those people got the Nobel Prize for in physics, but that's exactly how I Interpret the interconnectedness of I I feel like we're all we're all sitting on a node in interest in that, right?

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So imagine a spiderweb Surrounding the earth we all have a little spot on that net where we where we all sit But everything that we do all our actions they have an effect on other people just like when you're in a bad mood You're the people around you are gonna know they're gonna say who Brian is in a bad mood, right?

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You enter the room and you're all like huffing and puffing people will know that even if you don't say anything, right?

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Or if you come in and say I am so happy all these great things are happening You haven't even told them yet the people know you come into the room and you that we feel your happiness, right?

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But that's the same thing with when we create healing or the actions and the actions and reactions that we have in life They affect not just ourselves or the immediate person But you know think of yourself as sitting on this net it reverberates it ripples out through this grid through this Interconnectedness with everybody else that we we know or that we have in common Well, so was there was there a particular event that that inspired you because I know we talked about your journey the medical stuff And then the mediumship to move into the ancestral healing what inspired you to make that move?

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Yeah, so it was that it was a combination of the mediumship readings when I kept seeing the pattern repeating And then that led me to actually study the for the counseling the form of counseling of ancestral healing Okay, and then I had I got that but then as I started working with it and working with clients I then realized that When I'm working, I'm also working Mediumistically, I'm tuning into the spirit world.

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I'm tuning into the client.

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I'm feeling things in my body Sometimes the client feels things in their body or they know things intuitively right and so Really to create healing we it's sometimes just a cognitive awareness is not enough right because We sometimes we say that the way we think of cognitive awareness It kind of stays on the surface a little bit instead of saying why is it?

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Why is it that this struggle appears?

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Why is it that?

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You know, sometimes people have they get depressed or they sort of experience grief, but they haven't even lost anyone I don't know where it's just coming from.

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Why am I all of a sudden?

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I'm a happy person I've had several people with this.

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Why is it that all of a sudden I feel really depressed and It's like somebody died, but nobody has died, right?

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But they still have this depression, but then when you start looking well who who in the family what what is your age now?

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Okay, I'm 45.

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Okay who experienced grief in your family around your age and sure enough It'll be like mom or grandma or somebody had profound grief that grief Can be passed down and that next the next generation picks that up and especially if it wasn't processed through, right?

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the things that get passed down are Things that are sort of swept under the carpet, you know, somebody just stuff that grief down.

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They didn't process it Right and then it sort of lives on in the universe Everything is an energy in the end.

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And so all the Different things that our ancestors experienced that they weren't able to resolve It sort of just sits there energetically until somebody comes along and says Well, why is it that I have this issue, right?

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Those are the cycle breakers or the empaths or the healers for their lineage and they question Well, why is it that I have this feeling?

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Where is it coming from?

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It doesn't make any sense Right, and then you know, it takes steps towards that.

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Yeah.

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So this is a this is another way of healing I was thinking about you know, like in and again or in our Western medicine typically we're looking for Physical mechanisms I have I have this because this happened You know this this gene or whatever, which may be a carrier of some of this information but there's there's more to it beyond that and we see family patterns where People have anxiety that runs in the family or depression that runs in the family or even some physical conditions So this is a they get another component of how we can look at that Yeah, and I'm gonna say so our Experiences and the way things show up in our life.

00:32:35.939 --> 00:32:43.039
It's not it's never just the one thing So when you think about well if people say I grew up in a house where?

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You know, it was dysfunctional in one way or another so they pretty much had to learn to take care of themselves as a child Well, that's you're right that that's their lived experience That's part of the issue.

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All right, and we often go to counseling and we say, you know I had this lived experience as a child and they just left me alone and there was no food in the house and all these different things that happen But then when you start looking at the bigger picture So sometimes we do a lot of counseling a lot of therapy, which is good for many different things, right?

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but sometimes that's not enough and we Go through years of therapy and we still don't know what it is We still can't put our finger on it until one day.

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We start looking at the bigger picture and say Well, why is it that I grew up in that family?

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Why is it that I had that experience?

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What was the experience of my parents that were so dysfunctional why were they so dysfunctional Where did they come from?

00:33:41.719 --> 00:33:55.579
What was their life like when they were children right and you start mapping things out and you realize that many times you are You're repeating a pattern Many times is a common we have an alignment with someone.

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So let's say let's say mom wasn't happy in the relationship because dad Was never home he he traveled a lot for work and when he was home he had Disregarded the family and he just watched TV, right?

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So the children were never seen and heard the wife didn't feel seen and heard right?

00:34:16.699 --> 00:34:25.440
Then you look at the where that woman that is complaining about the husband is never around never available Doesn't give any emotional support.

00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:32.579
Well, if you look at her parents, this is just an example This could be an example doesn't have to be that.

00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:41.179
This is the issue, but it could be so if you look Let's say this clients parents them her dad Also was never home.

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He was always working.

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He was always traveling and So the this daughter is repeating what the mother experienced the mother could never figure out how to change that She came from a different generation She was told to be subservient to the man and you just do what you're told So there was never anything that was discussed.

00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:06.900
Nothing was ever resolved Her husband might not even have known that she was unhappy in the marriage, right?

00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:15.079
Because she was raised to be subservient then the daughter comes along But what happens is that we subconsciously merge with that behavior.

00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:58.759
So as a child we have Unconditional love for our parents regardless if they're nice or not because we're dependent on the parent We're not gonna have a place to sleep or get fed if we wasn't for the parent so as a young child like a toddler we see our parents just like If you were a child, you would know when to ask for ice cream The ice cream truck is on your street And you know if mom is in mom or dad is in a good mood if it's a good time to ask for ice cream We're not a good time, right, you know, you're your parents emotions, but that's the same thing with everything else So you tune into that as a child and you say hey Mom, I can see that you're unhappy in the relationship with that dad doesn't see you.

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He doesn't hear you.

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He's ignoring you Don't worry mom.

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I love you so much.

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I'm gonna help you carry this burden You grow up and then guess what happens you invite somebody into your marriage and marry somebody that is just like that And you're literally reliving Mom's life until you wake up and say hey, wait a second.

00:36:21.059 --> 00:36:23.119
Why did I marry somebody just like that?

00:36:23.798 --> 00:36:25.599
I'm repeating my mom's cycle, right?

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These are the people that have that epiphany and then you can break that cycle, right?

00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:42.859
And you can if there may if you're supposed to stay together then, you know, there would be counseling there would be you know healing happening, but if you're Sometimes it's not sometimes you're meant to break apart.

00:36:42.859 --> 00:36:44.480
And so there's more right?

00:36:44.480 --> 00:37:43.759
There's there's our own life contract or what we came to the to the world or to earth to know in this life And I think we all have We have things that we came to to learn things that we came to do in this life because many times when I have worked with astrologers, they will tell me that My near-death experience was supposed to happen on that specific day Right and the different things that have happened in my life and they can clearly see it in the chart so I'm gonna say There must be some kind of a movie script in the background where we sort of incarnate and say, you know We're up at the at the coffee counter in heaven and we say, you know, what give me number 35 I'm gonna marry someone who's not gonna see me and then I'll I'll take number 73 I'm gonna try and heal that ancestral wound My mom is going through the same thing and then I'll do number 46 right and we come down with all these sticky notes all over us and say I Don't know.

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What am I doing here?

00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:45.659
Why is that?

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I have all these Right, I'm gonna say there's there are certain things we incarnated to learn in this life and then there's a component of free will where Well, if you go this way, then this thing's gonna happen If you take this road and this thing's gonna happen.

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It's like we have different detours or different paths I'm gonna say that that the main things in our lives are definitely part of of who we are in this life right, so when I think of What people have told me about my astrological chart and then in numerology, right and do you know numerology a little bit?

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Yeah a little bit.

00:38:22.539 --> 00:38:28.079
So in numerology, I learned that it's only like 10 years ago I learned that I'm a life path 11.

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So a life path 11 is a master number as a healer So I literally came to the world to create healing for other people Help other people find a way to heal and I mean now my life makes sense Did it make sense when I was sick when I was in my 30s and I had my near-death experiences Absolutely, not.

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It just turned my world upside down.

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I didn't know if things if I was ever gonna get well I thought I was never gonna have a job again I was just gonna be housebound for the rest of my life, right?

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Because I was so sick and I had to go through all these things But now I know that it's in my chart that was in my chart, too And I've had I had one astrologer tell me oh and then you got well Like let me see you got well when you were 44 I'm like you are kidding you can see that and it said yeah that's has to do with your past lives and blah blah blah and karma and what you're here to learn in this life and you can see how certain things we came to have certain experiences in this life, right and that's just part of the journey and then we have things that You know what I'm wearing today or I'm gonna eat for dinner is my choice, but yeah, right I feel like the choices aren't Arm are smaller than I think sometimes we think because everything is sort of outline I'm gonna say we have an outline we have chapter outlines for our life Mm-hmm.

00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:51.819
All right, and and the different things we're here to learn.

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Yeah, I think that can be very free and there's there's No, I love the way you put it because I had this kind of conclusion I've come to also some people say there's they go to the extreme to say either everything is planned out and you can't change anything It's all you know, it's all deterministic.

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It's a mechanistic universe for example, or they say well Everything is just random There's there's no pattern at all and we can see that We can see indications of both as we're going through life and the good news about what we're talking about here with ancestral healing And so is there is we can't change some of these things once we become conscious of become where we can break some of these Patterns, so it's we're not saying that you're stuck in this pattern and you can't get out of it Absolutely, and especially when you know for anybody that's listening anybody who's listening to your podcast It's gonna be somebody like that because they're number one.

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They're listening to your podcast right grief to growth So there is they're already on that path of trying to to change things and there's it's so interesting because I mean the most miraculous things happen like because I've been working with this for so many years now and I'd always it's always amazing when you hear a common problem is I can just say, you know Generation that it's not the Gen Z generation that has a more of a tendency to cut off communication with their parents If they feel they weren't seen and heard by the parent or the they felt the parent was not nice to them when they were little right and there's Communication disappears the communication is just closed down the parents are often the people I work with then and they'll say I I Don't know exactly what's going on But I I can tell you what was going on when my child was growing up.

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I understand that they're mad at me I'm trying to fix it.

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I don't know how to fix it But then you go into that parents childhood that parents parents the grandparents and you clearly see the pattern right, sometimes there is this cutting off the communication is Rampant within a family that was something mom did that was something daddy.

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That was something they did to their brother and It just continues on but the interesting part is that once you uncover the reason and It doesn't have to be that they're repeating that pattern It could just be coming from something else right, but it has an ancestral component to it But once you heal the ancestral component and this is the interesting part the person let's say I'm working with a mother who hasn't communicated with let's say their daughter for two years and They keep reaching out but there's never any return of the call or text or letters or anything we do an ancestral healing with a mother right and Guess what happens and then two weeks later.

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I get an email saying guess who just called right, what is that right dad is that interconnectedness because When we heal ourselves when we figure out what is it?

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That is causing this problem when we go deeper into that and we create healing for ourselves That is that ripple effect that happens without all the souls are interconnected through this This web around the earth right because we're all interconnected and when we heal That feeling that creates a ripple effect out The same way as when you walk into a room and you're happy all the people in that room is gonna say wow Brian seems like he's in a really good mood.

00:43:33.179 --> 00:43:33.619
What happened?

00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:35.539
Did he win the lottery or right?

00:43:35.619 --> 00:43:37.139
We can all feel it, right?

00:43:37.739 --> 00:43:39.099
That's the same thing.

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Even though that person is not aware They're not even present.

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They could be living in a different country It doesn't matter because when you heal when you create healing for yourself That's all you have to do because that is gonna have a ripple effect out to all the other souls that you know Everybody that's connected to you and that's what's so interesting with ancestral healing because I don't know It has this what I call like a magical component where that interconnectedness.

00:44:07.980 --> 00:44:12.000
We can't explain that with science yet Right, right.

00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:25.839
So it is it is just something we that we see, you know, when I work like this I see what happens and the changes that are possible for people and it doesn't matter if it's Sometimes it can be physical, right?

00:44:26.759 --> 00:44:41.679
Because I'm a doctor I get you know, a lot of people saying oh, you know, I can heal this, you know I'm very spiritual and I'm like no don't even try because You have to work all this Why would you only work a spiritual component?

00:44:41.819 --> 00:44:45.859
Why would you only let's say pray or meditate to get rid of your cancer?

00:44:46.139 --> 00:44:51.279
Why aren't why wouldn't you use what's available in the physical world at this also, right?

00:44:51.279 --> 00:45:13.639
You only work with all of the things not don't put all your eggs in one basket use all of it Yeah, you work with it spiritually work with it medically do everything you can because that's gonna be your best shot I don't know why you incarnated or which way you picked that you were gonna heal right in this life So I tell people or people that say oh, I don't want to take a drug.

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I don't like to take drugs I I would rather take an herb and I'm like well in this case, you know You're gonna do a lot better at the drug We're gonna get you well in three days, but the herb could take, you know, three weeks and you don't have that time right now right sometimes You know, it's not just what we want to do, but it's what's best for that situation and I tell people well What if you incarnated to learn to take pharmaceutical drugs in this life?

00:45:38.319 --> 00:45:43.219
Well, what if you incarnated to learn to take a homeopathic drug or an herbal drug, right?

00:45:43.279 --> 00:45:56.359
We don't know Right, so again like why put all the eggs in one basket just try all of it and see which one works for you Because if you're not just we're not just it's not the same highway for every person.

00:45:56.539 --> 00:46:07.739
We all have our own roads we're all unique in this life and we all have our unique experiences and that includes how we heal how we Sort things out and everything.

00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:23.559
Yeah, I'm so glad you said that because I do hear people say things like I don't like to take drugs You know, it's like, you know, there's plant medicine there's medicine that that man has developed they they can both be helpful So why would you cut yourself off from a whole?

00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:34.000
You know, we I think we're giving the knowledge we were given to develop these incredible medicines that we've developed for for a reason We talked a lot about how can dry I can help people.

00:46:34.099 --> 00:46:37.000
Let's talk more about like what is what is can dry?

00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:37.859
What is the method?

00:46:38.779 --> 00:47:28.219
yeah, so can dry is that is an integration of Not just a right when you go to counseling or you study ancestral healing you're working with a cognitive right understanding the understanding of why it is that you're having experience, but sometimes we Don't know exactly why that is or we don't have all the pieces of our ancestors so we can't know exactly where it's coming from or maybe we were adopted and we don't even know our birth parents, right But if we if we put them all together so we use the cognitive model of Saying well, it gets passed down this way and this is what you feel and this is how you describe your issue But then when we also add the somatic experience Sometimes, you know, we have an issue.

00:47:28.379 --> 00:47:31.819
Well if we close our eyes, where do we feel that issue?

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What does it feel like?

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Where is it sitting?

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And if you use your super what I call a super conscious we add the intuitive aspect or the mediumistic aspect right we can tune in and Because when you when I work Sometimes I'll say, you know, it feels like it comes from your father I don't know anything about your dad's side of the family and the client will say yeah, that's how I feel too, right?

00:47:56.500 --> 00:48:45.019
again, there is that it's like we we have an intuitive knowing of Sometimes where the pattern is coming from and then the client may say well You know My dad's family had all these issues and then all of a sudden we can unwind that thread and we can say oh, yeah It comes from dad and his dad and probably, you know, five answers just before that but it's the father lineage Right, and then, you know, we have a direct relationship with with what it is that we're struggling that with maybe with dad right and many times people say Oh, I know I know my wounds coming from dad But the wound is actually coming from mom Because they think it's that because dad was mean to them in one way or another But they're really they're really aligned or repeated the pattern of mom, right?

00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.199
So it's just a matter of sorting it out.

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But once we can we have to integrate all of it so we you instead of just working on the cognitive or talk in the mind and rehashing Our struggles right because to a certain extent we keep talking about our struggles and we keep talking about and we sort of it's like A broken record, right?

00:49:06.319 --> 00:49:29.480
You get stuck in that groove for those of us who grew up who are old enough to have played records But now the records are back so, you know you get stuck in that groove and it just goes around and around but you want to get out of the groove and By using your somatic abilities and intuitive abilities you create, you know A three or a multi-layered system where you're accessing your ancestors.

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So when I work with Kendriah I help people tune into that tune into the field tune into the ancestors to create that healing and Once we can recognize where things are coming from.

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That's what we can also create healing not any different than When you're learning division in school and as a child you may struggle with division and then one day All of a sudden it clicks into place now.

00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.079
It's super easy You know, you fly through the homework, right?

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But up until you get that aha moment saying now I get it, right?

00:50:05.839 --> 00:50:19.579
I'm gonna say it's the same thing with our struggles whether they're physical or emotional Or spiritual struggles that once we create that aha moment of why is it that we're struggling in the first place?

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Where is it coming from?

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Where does it have its roots?

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That's when we can heal it because once we understand it, it's it like it just goes away right because we get now it's clear Yeah, so tell me about some of the transformations that you've seen using Kendriah and your light system Yeah, oh, there's so many So people all of a sudden right communicate relationships work Communication is reestablished with family members.

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I Mean I had one client ones who I hadn't spoken to their mom in like 10 years and we you know did the Kendriah ancestral healing and literally and then I a year went by and I didn't hear from the client client came back for something else and Said oh, you won't believe what happened after we did that healing My mom is that my best friend now, she calls me we talked like almost every day, right?

00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:21.679
I mean, it's just Miraculous changes that that happened and there's something that happens.

00:51:21.839 --> 00:51:26.000
There's You know what in the field itself, right?

00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.440
So Kendriah is you're working with the field.

00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:33.379
You're working with that Invisible grid we are all part of the field.

00:51:33.379 --> 00:52:06.059
So you're working you're restoring the coherence of the field Because whatever your ancestors couldn't heal and they sometimes it's impossible to create healing that The maybe you had the person had a terrible relationship with the father who is the client's grandfather But grandpa died and so there was never any You know, there was never any healing done between the two Oh, well that gets passed down to the next generation now because it's all the things that never heal that get passed down Right.

00:52:06.099 --> 00:52:07.359
Those are those are our struggles.

00:52:07.460 --> 00:52:26.960
And of course all the good things that get passed down That's not a problem right only the things that were unresolved by the ancestor that's what gets passed down So and then we find ourselves in these patterns or people saying You know, I'm on my third marriage and that didn't work out either.

00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:29.019
I don't know what I'm doing wrong, right?

00:52:29.099 --> 00:52:56.559
And then you do an ancestral healing and it's like it all clicks into place They see it and then who now the right person comes into their life and now they have Happy, you know happy life from then on people's depression I've had people had you know depression for many years and then we do an ancestral healing and all of a sudden the lights come on and It you know the email the next day and say I don't know what happened, but I woke up and it's not there It's gone.

00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:30.299
So it's just you know, sometimes I'm gonna say there is a dramatic change It happens very quickly like they wake up the next day and the world is different All of a sudden and sometimes it's like two weeks, I don't know what's the two weeks it seems to be a common one with the communication Almost as if the ripple effect goes over there that person is thinking about it for a while and says, you know something Hey, I should reach out So some sometimes is that that two-week window seems to be a magical window Probably something quantum physically out there that's happening.

00:53:30.619 --> 00:53:49.099
Yeah, but there's you know and people Physical things can also be right there when we talk about physical problems We could have been born with a problem that requires surgery that nobody has figured out what it is And they haven't found it yet, right and that's just that person's journey.

00:53:49.219 --> 00:53:53.239
That's that person's life Again, do we know what you have?

00:53:53.319 --> 00:54:17.639
No, not always right and sometimes we're told oh, it's you know, you just have to Work on it pray more or meditate more but sometimes it's just a something you were born with a congenital defect and other times it could be Something that happened like I had one client once that said I Said why is it that you're you keep having all these physical?

00:54:18.279 --> 00:54:22.759
Issues and I said that it just it didn't make any sense.

00:54:22.879 --> 00:54:59.480
There wasn't something that was congenital It wasn't something you know, it's kind of these What we call diagnosis of exclusion when you can't find anything on the labs You give the person a diagnosis because that's the only thing that fits But we don't really have labs for it, right, but we have to code a diagnosis So you say okay what tell me about you know, tell me about your ancestors Well, so it turns out the client said well when I was little my mom passed away My whole childhood my mom's really sick and I was 10 years old my mom died and at that funeral I remember saying to myself Don't worry mom.

00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:12.460
I'm gonna be sick just like you I love you so much, right and guess what happened, you know He do the healing and you realize that that's what that person has been carrying and all these kind of weird Symptoms that it's not really a true disease.

00:55:12.699 --> 00:55:18.719
I pain in the pain here and pain there and right but there's nothing That's really wrong, right?

00:55:19.449 --> 00:55:42.519
And that so many times those kinds of things can be related to an ancestor component now this client does happen to remember telling herself that right many times we don't remember it and It can just be that we love the parents so much and we say subconsciously Right this person remembered saying it so it wasn't conscious.

00:55:42.839 --> 00:55:44.279
I love you so much.

00:55:44.279 --> 00:55:53.940
I'm gonna I'm gonna help you carry this through life I'm gonna be sick just like you So sometimes it's an ancestor component that is causing it and sometimes it's not right again.

00:55:53.960 --> 00:56:08.079
We can't say We can't slot everybody into the same slot, you know, everybody has a unique journey in this life but one thing I can say is Everybody carries ancestral wounds, right?

00:56:08.099 --> 00:56:59.099
We all have ancestral wounds that come from our previous generations This is the matter of figuring out which ones you're here Which ones you're here to heal and figure out what that wound is because everybody has ancestral wounds Yeah, well, I love the way because I'm not much of an either-or person and I I'm an engineer by training and I believe Physical and I think we've done great things with physical things but I think we've gotten too caught up in our society with ignoring the Mind part of our mind body connection let alone spirit, you know We know that mine can affect the body It's why we have we have the placebo effect Which is well documented and every medicine that comes out has to go through a placebo trial because we know that effect can be so strong But we tend to ignore that when it comes to you know, we're going in the doctor.

00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:05.400
I've got this going on It's like they don't ask you what's going on in your mind or let alone what's going on in your in your ancestry Yeah.

00:57:05.739 --> 00:57:33.799
Yeah, I know because it takes too long and that the doctor, you know, this is the way the system is It doesn't have time for that it doesn't even have time for Figuring out what is different, you know, sometimes they're a physical problem, right people fall through the cracks all the time But if you if you don't have something, that's the normal stuff Many times the doctor doesn't know what to do with you because it's really something very very particular or it requires the specialist But again, you know, we who do we see when we go to the doctor?

00:57:33.799 --> 00:57:41.059
We see the general practitioner the family family practitioner general practitioner and The way we are trained right?

00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:56.159
That's how I'm trained We get that the scope the most common ailments Oh, make sure you don't miss this if they have this make sure you send them to a specialist Oh if they have this send to the ER right get all the red flags Make sure you don't miss anything and then for the rest.

00:57:56.299 --> 00:58:15.159
It's all the most common things now a lot of people have Weird things that only a specialist would know you would have to see a vascular surgeon in order to get that diagnosed Right, but if we didn't even learn about it, so you go to the general practitioner we don't learn about that Yeah, that's that's a specialist, right?

00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:36.239
That's what they learn but sometimes the general practitioner doesn't even know where to send you So that's why a lot of people fall through the cracks I get a lot of those when I work as a medical intuitive a lot of people and then I use my you know my medical background and my Medium ship and my intuitive abilities, but I get a lot of those and probably from growing up in my medical family Right.

00:58:36.359 --> 00:58:52.039
I've heard all the stories as a child, you know, my parents talking and saying oh they miss this they miss that Right, and it's common and it's still like that today Even when you go to the ER the ER right if you're not there to have your life saved, right?

00:58:52.420 --> 00:58:53.759
The ER doesn't know what to do with you.

00:58:53.819 --> 00:58:55.379
They're trained in saving lives.

00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:58.679
They're looking for you know, blood clots Are you bleeding out?

00:58:58.699 --> 00:58:59.379
Are you breathing?

00:58:59.839 --> 00:59:00.119
Right?

00:59:00.219 --> 00:59:08.239
Oh, you're organs look like they're functioning Go on your way send you home because They that's what they're trained to do.

00:59:08.339 --> 00:59:16.379
They're not going to find that weird vascular Effect that you were born with right because they're not trained to do that.

00:59:16.539 --> 00:59:24.279
And then you go back to your general practitioner He doesn't know so it's it's very difficult.

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It's very difficult for people to find find the correct help in our current system Yes, so what would you how would you like to see our current system change?

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Yeah, I mean from the roots up I think it's very difficult to to change our system because there's you know, the whole system would have to change We need you know, definitely we need more time We need more time because anybody who becomes a doctor I'm gonna say you become a doctor because you want to help people you want to help people here But the way our regular system is set up there isn't enough time You know for the doctor to really get to know the people or I mean when my men when I grew up You know, my dad knew a lot of his patients by name and so different back then You know, the neighbors were coming to our house and my dad would you know, yeah, you need an antibiotic shot here Let me save you a trip to the hospital.

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All right, and it was Much more tribal.

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I'm gonna say We were more of a tribal society.

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Sure.

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I grew up in the 60s than we are now Now it's just you go see the doctor.

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He comes, you know, he or she comes in See what the problem is to order some labs or to order some imaging and you're on your way and Nothing shows up.

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They're like, okay.

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Well, it's all clear.

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You don't have to come back.

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But the person is still not feeling well so it would require a big change where you know, we're going back to Getting to know the person getting to know there's you know, the family they come from their home life right and you get that from People who have left the system and have open private practice but then that becomes inaccessible to a lot of people because then that costs more money and it's not covered under their insurance and So it's a very difficult, you know system that we have and yeah I hope that we can you know, change it to a better system and you know, everybody should have health care.

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It's Yeah, you made a really good point there, you know about changing the system because I do I get to talk to people like you Who do what we call a turn to the medicine or whatever you would whatever we're going to put on it But as you said a lot of times are people who have left the system.

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That's actually there always people have left the system And it's hard for for an ordinary person to have access to that which is why you know, we're doing we're doing now so I know that you are doing some work with the shift network and you've got an event as we're recording this at the end of December of 2025 you've got an event coming up.

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Tell me about that event.

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You've got coming up with shift network Yeah, so I'm really excited about it because I've taught a couple of classes before for the shift network on the more traditional or Cognitive only way of looking at ancestral healing, but this time I'm going to be teaching Kendra which is what I developed which is that integration of intuitive awareness with cognitive understanding and somatic awareness, so You know, not only are we gonna figure out what it is You know each person is here to heal.

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I will take you on a journey, but it will also help awaken people's intuitive abilities So we'll be doing work going back and forth between doing super conscious work, which is intuitive work or mediumistic work However, you want to look at it?

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to somatic work feeling it within our body to cognitive understanding of Well, where did this come from anyway?

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And so we're merging all three to help create healing for people so that they can really create true healing You know for it for themselves for their lineage, you know backwards and forwards in time Because when we heal here, we are still connected to the people in the spirit world, right?

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There are ancestors all we are all souls.

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We just happen to live in a body they're living outside the body right now because they're in the spirit world and And forward in time to our offspring or and to the people that are maybe not even born yet because when we heal Right that wound is not going to get passed down.

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We're healing that now So by just focusing on ourselves and that's the beauty of it because many times people say how can I change my partner?

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How can I change my child?

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How can I change right and it's focused on changing?

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But that's not how we're gonna heal the healing has to happen from within All you have to do is focus on yourself create healing for yourself Understand why why it is you're struggling with something and and then create this healing for yourself Because that will ripple out to all the people that you know Whether they're in the spirit world or here on earth or not born yet yeah, I love what you said that because as you were talking about the Gen Z thing and kind of how communicates with the parents.

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I didn't know that was a thing I just happen to keep seeing it over and over again and and I see the parents because they're my generation Struggling with like, okay.

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How do I how do I get them back?

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How do I change them as opposed to you know, the only thing we can really change is ourselves.

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Yes exactly because because the reason you have been cut off right in the first place is because They didn't appreciate the way you interacted with them Well, why is it that you interacted that way and where is that coming from?

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All you have to do is heal yourself Start understanding.

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What where is it coming from?

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What what is it that's causing this friction or non-communication and focus on healing yourself?

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And that's the beauty of can dry and ancestral healing is that all we have to do is this heal ourselves?

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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So dr.

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Lottie I know people are gonna want to hear more from you.

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We'll have a link to the event and in the show notes So for anybody who's listening to this or if you're watching on YouTube or whatever, there'll be a link in the show notes But if people want to reach out to you, how can people reach you?

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The best way would be to go to my website, which is this dr.

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Lottie dr Lottie calm and on there you can see all the different types of sessions and work that I do and if you're you know Would like to work with me personally you can just book a session find a time online Yeah, well, thanks so much for being here today I know that I know people are gonna get a lot out of this and I think when it comes to healing I love the concept of the interest net that you know, if we heal ourselves We're healing our neighbors and we're we're eventually healing the whole world.

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Yes, exactly, right?

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Because all you have to do is focus on yourself.

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Stop thinking you're gonna try and fix somebody else or change somebody else Just work on yourself.

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That's all you have to do and it makes life so much simpler, too Because once we realize that it's a lot simpler because we can let go of trying, you know We can lead a horse to water a hundred times, but you can't make that horse drink, right?

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And they said that is exactly what's happening, but we can't change ourselves We can heal and when we heal again That is what's gonna ripple out just like if you walk into a room and you're happy everybody knows it Thanks so much for being here today enjoy the rest of your afternoon.

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Yeah.

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Thank you so much