Intuitive Signs Before Death: How Your Soul Prepares You for Loss- with Tami Piretti Sanders | EP 475

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Close your eyes and imagine.

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What if the things in life that caused us the greatest pain, the things that bring us grief, are challenges.

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Challenges designed to help us grow to ultimately become what we were always meant to be.

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We feel like we've been buried, but what if, like a seed, we've been planted?

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And having been planted, we grow to become a mighty tree.

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Now, open your eyes.

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Open your eyes to this way of viewing life.

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Come with me as we explore your true, infinite, eternal nature.

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This is Grief to Growth, and I am your host, Brian Smith.

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Hi there, I'm Brian Smith, host of Grief to Growth.

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Whether it's your first time tuning in, you've been with us for a while, I want to welcome you.

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This podcast is a space where we explore life's deepest questions, who we are, why we're here, and where do we go when this life ends, and how do we make it through the toughest moments with grace and with purpose.

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In today's episode, I'm joined by Tammy Patetti Sanders.

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An intuitive guide whose journey through grief led to a profound spiritual awakening.

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About a year before any personal losses occurred, Tammy began exploring spiritual work like Reiki, guided by an inner knowing that something was coming.

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When her family dog passed away unexpectedly, followed just months later by her death of her father, that intuitive nudge suddenly made sense.

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In the fog of heartbreak, Tammy began to experience something that defied logic, comforting signs, powerful synchronicities, and a sense that the universe had been preparing her all along.

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These weren't just comforting coincidences, they were doorways to healing and transformation.

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Now Tammy dedicates her work to helping others move through grief, but recognizing the signs that her loved ones never really leave us.

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Through her unique reading style and her intuitive gifts, she helps people reconnect with themselves, their purpose, and with those who have lost.

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So today we're going to explore how intuition can whisper to us before major life changes, what grieving people truly need beyond just platitudes, how to ask for, notice, and trust the signs from the other side, and why grief often shifts not just our hearts, but our entire circle of relationships.

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By the end of this conversation, I think you'll come away with a renewed sense of hope, deeper trust in your own intuition, and some practical ways to connect with loved ones in spirit.

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As always, after the episode, I invite you to continue the conversation on my substack at grief2growth.substack.com.

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There you'll find a companion article to this episode and a space where you can share your thoughts and connect with me and other listeners.

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And with that, I want to welcome Tammy Patetti Sanders.

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Hi, thank you for having me.

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Hi, Tammy.

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Thanks for being here.

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Thanks for being so patient for everybody that's listening.

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I was telling Tammy, sometimes when I have intuitives on, everything goes crazy.

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This is about the fifth time we tried to record this.

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I rebooted my computer, I've restarted Zoom, I've updated Zoom, so hopefully we can make it through this time.

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Okay, let's hope so.

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So, Tammy, it's weird, you know, we talked earlier before everybody could hear that.

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You know, spirit sometimes seems to just kind of step in and start sending us signs, even if we don't want them.

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Yes, they do.

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They're just letting us know.

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They're just saying hi.

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Yeah, so I know you start to have some intuitive things before some things, major things happen to your life.

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So tell me about that.

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Yes, I, like unknowingly, little things, I just, I call them nudges were happening.

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Like, we go to the Jersey Shore every summer, and we do family photos, and I decided to schedule them on an off year.

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And nobody questioned it in my family.

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And it even rain was raining as we were on the beach, getting them, I'm like, we're doing them.

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And, you know, a week later, my father was in the hospital and never came home.

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So we thank God every day that we had those photos and those memories.

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So things like that were happening.

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So I, I called just call them like unknowing knowings, you know, that occurred.

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And I listened for once to these.

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And at the same time, I was I work in physical therapy, I was receiving Reiki for an injury.

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And I had it before, but this time around, I was seeing things, visions, feeling things I never felt before.

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And then I decided to take Reiki one.

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And I asked the intuitive, she was very intuitive, the Reiki person.

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And I just said, I have this feeling something's going to happen, specifically to my father.

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Now, this was during COVID.

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So, you know, he wasn't as active and, you know, but his health was okay.

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And she said his soul is preparing for that time.

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And I almost fell off the chair.

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I'm like, I wasn't expecting her to agree with that.

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Right.

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But then a week later, our seven year old little dog died.

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So I thought she was reading that energy in me, like incorrectly.

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But was always aware, always had my radar up with my dad and we're down the shore.

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And he seemed okay.

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I mean, he was 80, almost 81, I believe at the time, and I definitely didn't think he was dying.

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And I've been in the medical field for 30 years, as my husband is as well.

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We pick up on a lot of things.

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And I just was so sad after losing the dog that I almost felt silly.

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Because, you know, look at you losing a child, like to me, that's unimaginable.

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But I've learned grief is grief.

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And if it hurts you, you know, then, you know, other people like just don't get it until something you love so, so much is just taken away.

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Right.

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And it just changes your changes your daily life.

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Like I was an empty nester at the time.

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So having my little dog, you know, like she just followed me everywhere.

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And a good friend of mine had sent me a poem.

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And it just made so much sense.

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And it was like, just takes that one person to reach out to you and just make you feel like you're human.

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And with my father, I mean, he is daddy's little girl, just never just thought about him not being in my life.

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And, you know, it was tough.

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And I started, thankfully, I was meditating already for about a year, starting to enhance my intuitive abilities.

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And I received a reading from somebody when we were at the beach.

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And she said, if you ever get a feeling, like something's not right, just drive right to your parents house.

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And pretty much that's what happened.

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My son sent me a photo of him and my dad.

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They were out for lunch before he was going back to college.

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And I did not like how my dad looked.

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And I just got in the car and got there.

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And he was having like tremors, like I think he was going in the sepsis.

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And the Italian stubborn man, you know, but as soon as we said, dad, you're going to the hospital, he said, okay.

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And that's how I knew that his soul was preparing.

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And the hospital, I mean, he was never on oxygen.

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He needed 55 liters of oxygen to stay alive.

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Found out he had a God wink because we probably wouldn't have done half the things we did as a family.

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And, you know, it was the hardest two weeks of my life.

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But we were able to all be there and say goodbye.

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And it was the most beautiful.

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I've seen a lot of people die in my field.

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And, you know, I had grandparents die.

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And, but this was just, if you had to pick a way to die, it was just beautiful.

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And he, him and my mom had been together since they were 12.

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And we thought he was gone.

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And then like five seconds later, he opened his eyes and leaned over to kiss my mom.

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And that was just a testament to their marriage and love.

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And so that was not an intuitive thing I wanted to have.

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So I dealt with a lot of emotions after that.

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Like, did I create that?

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Did I make that happen?

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Did I, you know, manifest that like all these, because I didn't know I was so new at everything.

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And I learned that that's how your intuitive abilities begin is sometimes is with sensing the bad things that are going to happen.

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So, you know, so then I just went in, in deep, I saw my father's apparition in my house the day after he died.

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And that started my journey.

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Being obsessed with the afterlife and communication and all of that.

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Yeah.

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So do you think that the Reiki opened up your abilities?

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Or what are your thoughts on that?

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I think yes, because I received an attunement as well.

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And I was probably blocked.

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So that like opens you up.

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Because I got really sick after the attunement.

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And almost flew like like I coughed for like 10 minutes straight.

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And she said, that's very common.

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I must have been really blocked.

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And I think between that, the meditation, learning how to ground myself really tune in, I walk in nature almost daily.

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And just, you know, I was always aware, but I became really aware, like, noticing leaves falling on the trees, like everything I hate at birds before.

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Now it's like, I know every bird out there now.

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And just paying attention to I saw something more than once, like, what does that mean?

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And I just wanted to find the meaning in my father's death.

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Like, I almost felt like there was a calling for me to do what I'm doing right now.

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Because I was so lost, like nobody could help me.

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And I'm the helper, I'm the fixer, I'm the nurturer.

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And then all of a sudden, I needed it.

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And I didn't know how to ask for, for help.

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You know, and I was just lost.

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And again, this was during COVID.

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So there was nothing like available around me.

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And I am Catholic, but I'm not active in my church.

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And even that was online.

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And I'm just I need to be in person to benefit from something.

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I don't know.

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I'm just old school like that.

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So I just read probably 100 books, listen, start listening to podcasts, started looking for mentors.

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And and I just, I felt my dad, I started to hear him, I started to get all these crazy signs.

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And there's something to this.

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Yeah.

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And it's just been a journey.

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You mentioned seeing his apparition.

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What was that like?

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Tell me about that.

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And it was crazy.

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I mean, I thought I was hallucinating, really.

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And it was just this bright light, really just like his face.

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And it was like three seconds, and it was gone.

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And I didn't tell anybody, because I wasn't even sure what just happened.

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And a couple of months after he passed, I went to a medium for the first time.

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Still didn't say anything.

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She said, your dad wants you to know that that was him and said exactly where I was sitting.

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And that was like, it just made me it was the first thing that made me feel better.

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You know, like the layers of grief are starting to come away because it just gave me validation.

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And then like just the signs that would happen and that they would always happen when I was by myself.

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So I just think people thought I was crazy.

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They're like, okay, whatever you say, Tammy, you know, like the basic things like the red Cardinal, you know, but you know, I was aware before, like I said, that like a red Cardinal would come right where we buried our dog out back constantly, whenever I needed to say it.

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So then I started asking for like more, you know, unique signs.

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Yeah.

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And then I realized like, you can't ask and it's going to come like that.

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Like you have to be aware.

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I could see something on social media, on a license plate.

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You got to look all around.

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They're there.

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They're always there.

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And you know, that our TV would go on in the middle of the night, our smoke alarm would go off the your phone would just start playing a song.

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Those types of things.

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And then they started happening when I was with other people, because I think my dad really wanted to guide me through this journey.

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And he didn't really believe in psychics and mediums when he was alive.

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But he does now.

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He said this, this was your journey.

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This is what you're supposed to be doing to help other people breathing.

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Because like I said, the medium was the only person that made me feel better.

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Yeah.

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You mentioned earlier with the intuition, you felt maybe a sense of guilt, or maybe you caused it.

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And I think that's very common with people.

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Or sometimes people think, well, I was supposed to prevent this.

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What are your thoughts on that?

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Now?

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Why did we receive it intuitions?

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I think, you know, in a way, I'm grateful because it was trying to prepare me for this devastating loss.

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But I also am a medical intuitive.

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Like I, I think I always was.

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But like I took the official course.

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You know, I've always worked in healthcare.

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So I could intuitively feel something or see something on someone's body.

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Unknowingly, again, like I would never call myself that five years ago.

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But I always was whether it was a muscle thing or an organ thing.

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And I, I think until I dove deep, I didn't really know.

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I just ignored it all.

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And it's frustrating.

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I get mad, but I think it's just how it was supposed to happen.

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Like all these things that happened led me to where I am today.

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So I can't have a regret.

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But you know, I, the same thing happened with my mother-in-law 15 months before she was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer.

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I just wrote in my journal her name, stage four colon cancer.

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And again, same type of thing.

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What do I do with this?

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How do I know if I'm right?

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I don't want to be right about this.

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And just gave her little nudges and let, and it's exactly what happened.

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And she's diagnosed and she, she lasted for four months.

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Again, I went through that guilt again.

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And every mentor I went to, they said, you cannot feel like that.

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They were trying to let you know to either just prepared yourself because I'm an empath.

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I guess they were preparing me so I wouldn't break down.

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And for me to have the strength to be there for my husband and his family.

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And that's how I have to look at it now.

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Like not that we want those people to die physically to be here forever, but then after that was when I started to get, you know, hearing the communication and understanding.

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Like, I think I was waiting to hear a different sounding voice in my head, but it's really my own thoughts or my own voice.

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Cause some instructors would tell me, oh, you'll know when it's spirit because it sounds like them.

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So I'm waiting to hear my dad's voice in my ear and I'm not, you know, and then I, then I, once I just, all right, let go, see what happens and start to do readings and they were accurate.

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So it's really your own, it's your mile for me.

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It's my own voice and just really paying attention to feelings in your body and just, you know, tuning in.

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And that's hard to do.

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It's really hard to do and to ground yourself every day.

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Cause I was absorbing energy, like going to the grocery store, I'd come home like insane or in a bad mood or sad.

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And I didn't know why.

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And I now I know I have to ground myself.

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People just like to attach to me, you know?

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And I probably, I had, apparently I have a lot of spirits here in the house.

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Did not know, I guess I would have known if they were bad spirits, you know, but like when the electricity things were happening, that was even before my dad passed.

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So it's all these little nudges that were happening.

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It's very interesting.

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Yeah.

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So you said that you decided to become a medium because the medium was the one thing that helped you.

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So this is something you wanted to pass forward, I guess.

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How did you go through that process of actually becoming a medium?

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I think just, well taking, I had to retake Ricky one because I forgot everything.

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And then I took Ricky two, which really helps you just to tune in to other people's body and how to read energy.

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And like I said, like just reading a ton of books.

00:21:34.179 --> 00:21:39.659
And then I would take a lot of courses online for mediumship intuition.

00:21:40.919 --> 00:21:52.199
And I still would doubt myself, you know, and I wanted to learn, you know, listening to podcasts.

00:21:52.959 --> 00:22:03.359
And it was a healer that said to me, she did a healing on me and said, stop taking the courses, just start doing a reading.

00:22:04.139 --> 00:22:04.699
What?

00:22:05.619 --> 00:22:13.519
So I was in this Zoom call for probably another course I was trying to take literally the next day.

00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.919
And there was a woman on there and she just looked so sad.

00:22:18.179 --> 00:22:22.279
And all she said is she lost her brother to suicide.

00:22:23.479 --> 00:22:33.719
And I got up, got off that call and I just sat and wrote down things about her brother, did not see a photo, did not see anything.

00:22:34.959 --> 00:22:41.499
And I reached out to her after and I said, I hope you don't mind, but I felt such a connection to you.

00:22:42.439 --> 00:22:50.179
And I just see this blonde hair pin with a red hat backwards and an orange vest.

00:22:50.659 --> 00:22:54.419
And she said, Oh, my God, he is red.

00:22:54.459 --> 00:22:55.519
And she sent me a picture.

00:22:56.059 --> 00:22:59.319
He has this red hat backwards, which he wore all the time.

00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:12.419
And unfortunately, when he passed, he made it suicide wearing his orange vest with his hunting rifle.

00:23:13.399 --> 00:23:25.339
Why I saw that, you know, by this certain tree, which is, you know, now like where they, you know, planted all these flowers and stuff and remembrance of him, but that's what I saw.

00:23:26.139 --> 00:23:34.959
So, again, not nothing you want to be right about, but it just gave her validation and then some other things that helped her heal from that.

00:23:37.219 --> 00:23:48.499
But one thing that started all of this is shortly after my dad died, I started to see images in photos that I took on my cell phone.

00:23:49.479 --> 00:23:55.399
And, like, his face, my dog's face, people's faces, I did not know.

00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:02.319
I could, like, look at a tree or rock and see images that other people weren't seeing.

00:24:03.339 --> 00:24:05.919
So, again, I thought, I'm crazy.

00:24:06.439 --> 00:24:08.859
Because I'd say to people, don't you see that?

00:24:08.959 --> 00:24:11.739
Like, you know, there's our dog or there's my dad.

00:24:11.739 --> 00:24:18.779
And some people would, some people wouldn't until I understood that was my gift and my strength.

00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:23.999
Then I really dove deep into that area.

00:24:25.179 --> 00:24:29.319
And I just came up with, well, maybe I can do a reading based on a photo.

00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:35.999
And that's what I started right after I received that healing and that confirmation.

00:24:37.699 --> 00:24:39.199
You know, I always doubt myself.

00:24:39.899 --> 00:24:43.019
And she said, you got the gift, just do it.

00:24:43.979 --> 00:24:47.279
And your guides are there, your father's there.

00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:54.399
And, you know, I did one for your daughter, and I just started writing it out.

00:24:54.679 --> 00:24:58.219
And it literally just started in March.

00:24:59.019 --> 00:25:02.279
And I named it Divine Lens Readings.

00:25:02.939 --> 00:25:05.219
And I just have like an Instagram page.

00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:09.599
And, you know, I'm pretty busy with it.

00:25:09.699 --> 00:25:15.439
And it just, it warms my heart, because I know how it made me feel.

00:25:15.899 --> 00:25:20.119
And I try to give them whatever validation they may need.

00:25:20.339 --> 00:25:22.859
So, I always say, is there anything you want to hear?

00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:25.539
Anything you're looking for an answer for?

00:25:25.939 --> 00:25:29.639
And then I didn't realize that I could do psychic ones as well.

00:25:30.379 --> 00:25:45.159
And I lately have been doing some health things with people, I can tune into their body through their most recent photo and say, you know, you should get your adrenals checked, or your gut health checked, or whatever it may be.

00:25:45.539 --> 00:25:51.799
So, I'm going to delve into that a little bit more as well, because that could save people a lot of money and time.

00:25:53.219 --> 00:25:56.919
And it's just, it's a really good feeling.

00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:01.159
And then, you know, I'm just going to let it progress as it's supposed to.

00:26:01.439 --> 00:26:01.639
Yeah.

00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.299
So, there's something about looking at a photo for you.

00:26:04.459 --> 00:26:06.159
Do you see something in the photo?

00:26:06.439 --> 00:26:07.379
How does that work?

00:26:08.219 --> 00:26:11.799
I actually, I don't even really know how it happens.

00:26:11.999 --> 00:26:17.559
Like, it's just like when I meet somebody, I can read their energy in a second.

00:26:19.399 --> 00:26:21.639
And, or I can read a room.

00:26:22.639 --> 00:26:24.039
It's just like that.

00:26:24.459 --> 00:26:25.359
There's just something.

00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:27.579
And it can be an old photo.

00:26:28.419 --> 00:26:33.379
Or if it's about health, I want a recent photo.

00:26:33.959 --> 00:26:38.199
But if it's someone that passed away, it could be a photo from 30 years ago.

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:44.179
I'll say send me two and I'll still get the same information.

00:26:45.099 --> 00:26:48.019
It's just I meditate, I just hone in on it.

00:26:48.239 --> 00:26:50.759
And I just write out what I get.

00:26:51.679 --> 00:26:55.119
And sometimes it's hard because some talk really fast.

00:26:55.619 --> 00:26:57.839
Some talk in codes.

00:26:58.499 --> 00:27:02.079
And if I see a red rose, I'm like, okay, well, what does that mean?

00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:04.339
Do they like red roses?

00:27:04.739 --> 00:27:05.619
Is it an anniversary?

00:27:05.919 --> 00:27:06.159
A birthday?

00:27:06.499 --> 00:27:09.419
So, still learning all of that.

00:27:14.339 --> 00:27:19.019
And sometimes my hands gonna fall off because sometimes I have 10 pages.

00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.479
And most of the time I have to rewrite it.

00:27:22.699 --> 00:27:26.939
Because, you know, it was sloppy because I was going so fast.

00:27:27.479 --> 00:27:31.779
But I like my own writing versus typing.

00:27:32.639 --> 00:27:34.359
I think it's more authentic.

00:27:35.239 --> 00:27:42.939
And sometimes I start writing, apparently, like the person that passed away writes.

00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.439
I've been told that because I'm like, why is my writing changing?

00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:48.739
I don't write like this.

00:27:49.379 --> 00:27:52.539
And I did kind of notice that and I just thought it was from fatigue.

00:27:53.219 --> 00:27:58.499
But a couple people have said, Oh, my God, that was my mom's handwriting that I noticed it changed.

00:27:58.499 --> 00:27:59.999
I was like, Oh, interesting.

00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.479
So I just feel like it's more authentic.

00:28:03.239 --> 00:28:07.459
But you know, I've had good feedback.

00:28:07.659 --> 00:28:13.759
There's nothing where somebody said like, No, that doesn't resonate at all.

00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:15.819
Or you're completely off.

00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:21.199
So, you know, it makes me feel good when I help other people feel good.

00:28:21.239 --> 00:28:23.259
And I've always thought that's my personality.

00:28:23.679 --> 00:28:25.759
I mean, it's kind of work I've always done.

00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:30.019
You know, I used to be in the catering industry.

00:28:30.499 --> 00:28:33.299
And then I went into physical therapy.

00:28:34.459 --> 00:28:45.939
And I always tend to get into fields where I can really like I got into physical therapy, because I had a third degree burn on my whole right leg from earn a coffee.

00:28:46.899 --> 00:28:52.179
So I could empathize with patients, burn patients specifically.

00:28:53.639 --> 00:28:55.759
And I worked in a burn unit.

00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:05.119
And again, at that time, would I want to go through that burn?

00:29:05.459 --> 00:29:06.259
Absolutely not.

00:29:06.459 --> 00:29:08.279
It was horrific pain.

00:29:09.259 --> 00:29:12.719
But so many good things came out of that burn.

00:29:13.179 --> 00:29:13.399
Right.

00:29:13.979 --> 00:29:18.839
I didn't think that at the time, you know, I was 22 years old, now I'm 57.

00:29:19.979 --> 00:29:26.299
But and that's what and it's like, you know, people say, Oh, happened for a reason.

00:29:27.299 --> 00:29:41.459
And it is kind of true, even though you don't want to hear that at the time with anything, but everything that I've gone through, and any trauma, or heartache, there's always been something good that has come out of it.

00:29:41.879 --> 00:29:46.739
And I just that's another message, like, whoever's going through something really tough.

00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:58.419
You know, you just have to try to think on the other side, you'll know someday, why this is happening, you know, not just grief, anything, you know.

00:29:59.659 --> 00:30:08.579
So is that a is that a message that you've gotten from people on the other side when they talk about their passing or stuff like that, that they are they relay that message to their loved ones also?

00:30:09.399 --> 00:30:10.919
Yes, a lot.

00:30:11.239 --> 00:30:21.039
And a lot of times they say this, like, even when I really had a time with ones that were younger, you know, and even like your daughter, and it's like, why?

00:30:21.399 --> 00:30:22.699
And you can't question it.

00:30:22.779 --> 00:30:28.759
It's like they know that that was their life's journey.

00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:30.939
That was how it was supposed to happen.

00:30:32.379 --> 00:30:35.119
And apparently they chose that life.

00:30:35.539 --> 00:30:39.619
I still struggle with that a little bit when they say that we all have our journey.

00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:45.039
And how we pick our parents, we pick our next life.

00:30:46.459 --> 00:30:55.959
And because I did past life regression, I did Akashic Records, like, when I say I dove deep, I dove deep, I wanted to find out everything.

00:30:56.699 --> 00:31:06.459
I'm very like, I need to see all the proof I need to see, you know, to really believe and there's things I don't know how it happens.

00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.079
The way they can send you a sign.

00:31:11.659 --> 00:31:16.799
It still amazes me, you know, but somehow they make it happen.

00:31:17.459 --> 00:31:34.879
And like my dad said, this was part of his journey was to help me go through I had a spiritual awakening, because I was here to guide you through this, because that was very painful going through that, because I didn't know what that was happening.

00:31:36.919 --> 00:31:40.419
So as long as I felt him, I was good.

00:31:40.739 --> 00:31:45.059
But other people, and I think that's why some relationships struggled.

00:31:46.239 --> 00:31:51.439
I struggled with my friendships and relationships, because I didn't even know what was happening to me.

00:31:52.239 --> 00:31:53.939
You know, it wasn't just grief.

00:31:54.239 --> 00:32:00.779
It was like my whole body was just like detoxing, I guess from what you go through when you have an awakening.

00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.579
Yeah, I didn't even know what an empath was before all of this.

00:32:06.139 --> 00:32:06.239
Yeah.

00:32:06.699 --> 00:32:12.499
You know, so yeah, in a sense, it's kind of like a rebirth, you become like a different person.

00:32:12.779 --> 00:32:17.699
And sometimes people in relationships with this are like, you're not who you were before.

00:32:18.479 --> 00:32:18.839
Correct.

00:32:19.499 --> 00:32:19.599
Yeah.

00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:24.799
And, and that's hard, because I'm like, well, was I bad before?

00:32:25.139 --> 00:32:35.419
You know, I just think that I just was always busy, and just always entertaining and doing this and then had so many different friends, friend groups.

00:32:36.179 --> 00:32:40.319
And then as I started to change, I guess my needs changed.

00:32:41.439 --> 00:32:57.599
And I feel like I wanted to be with like minded people, people that like valued what I was trying to do, and supported it, and were interested in it.

00:32:58.099 --> 00:33:05.439
So you know, it's difficult when you're with somebody that you've been close with, and they don't ask you.

00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.179
So how's your readings going?

00:33:08.179 --> 00:33:09.879
Or how's this going?

00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.399
You want to be able to share that.

00:33:13.479 --> 00:33:24.719
And, and it's nothing wrong if they don't believe whether it's for religious reasons, or whatever it may be, I guess, I just know what I need it to for support.

00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:25.379
Sure.

00:33:25.899 --> 00:33:34.779
And, and it's all, you know, it's sad, you know, because I miss a lot of, we're all like cordial now, it's just different.

00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:50.399
But I've just recently met like two great girls that are very similar to me, it doesn't mean that they're doing readings also, but they're spiritual, and they believe in this, and we're like kind of helping each other.

00:33:51.159 --> 00:33:54.499
And I think that was divinely led as well.

00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.639
You know, and it's making me feel like whole again.

00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.199
But I definitely became more introverted.

00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:11.179
And then I was so I do have to like push myself to get out there.

00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:23.199
And like me doing podcast, I do not like public speaking, like I, I just don't, but literally a layer comes off of my grief.

00:34:23.619 --> 00:34:27.519
Every time I do this, I think you are like my six or seven.

00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:34.659
And it just I feel, I just feel really good.

00:34:35.579 --> 00:34:35.679
Yeah.

00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:38.759
And hopefully, even if it's just one person that I helped.

00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:48.199
Yeah, it makes me feel well, what you've gone through is, you know, we call it a spiritual transformative experience, which is it's similar to a near death experience.

00:34:48.340 --> 00:34:59.059
When you when you tell me the way you know, how you how you change, you know, people say that you're not the same person were before your needs change your, your and actually going through grief.

00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:03.780
I've talked to a lot of people, me having my daughter pass or someone having some really close.

00:35:04.340 --> 00:35:05.699
Some people can't handle that.

00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.000
And they will they will actually back away.

00:35:08.139 --> 00:35:13.940
So we do go through these things in life where it's like we do almost become like a different person.

00:35:14.659 --> 00:35:18.460
Yeah, how can you not like, I just listened to a podcast.

00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:28.259
And this man was saying that there's practical grievers, where they grieve for that short week.

00:35:28.780 --> 00:35:29.920
Okay, now we move on.

00:35:30.059 --> 00:35:32.380
And that's how they are in life.

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.079
And there's nothing wrong with that.

00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:39.139
But I was I'm not a practical greever.

00:35:39.878 --> 00:35:45.759
And when somebody comes over and say, Come on, got to get going.

00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:47.818
You've been in your house for too long.

00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.940
And it's like, you're telling me I'm grieving incorrectly.

00:35:53.139 --> 00:35:55.460
So then I put up my shield.

00:35:56.099 --> 00:35:56.199
Right.

00:35:56.619 --> 00:36:04.239
And then I then I want to climb into a hole again, because this person just deflated me once again.

00:36:04.759 --> 00:36:04.859
Right.

00:36:05.219 --> 00:36:14.980
And I've learned, even before all this, I was the type that I'm not just there the first week for my friends when they lost a parent or whoever.

00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:21.639
I would write my calendar 30 days, 60 days, 90 days and reach out or send a card.

00:36:22.358 --> 00:36:24.460
I was just always like that.

00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:32.699
And now even more so, I think it's not like, let me know if you need anything like that is the worst thing to say.

00:36:33.359 --> 00:36:35.019
Obviously, they need something.

00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.920
You just be there with them, sit with them.

00:36:38.319 --> 00:36:40.139
I'm here, whatever you need.

00:36:40.819 --> 00:36:43.579
You know, anticipate their needs.

00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:49.359
Yeah, you know, they're gonna need food, they might need help with their kids, they might need, you know, something.

00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.940
And not just like I said, the first month, it's the lifetime.

00:36:54.259 --> 00:36:58.639
I mean, like, it's been it was four years in September for my dad.

00:36:59.019 --> 00:37:06.379
And I don't think it changes, as I'm sure you know that, but I still miss him every day.

00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.480
It's a whole family dynamic changed.

00:37:08.859 --> 00:37:12.559
You know, and he's just my sister and I and my mom.

00:37:14.059 --> 00:37:16.699
And, you know, she's our whole world.

00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:27.779
And she's getting older, you know, it's just hard and that you just worry and but now you just have to enjoy every minute and don't put things off.

00:37:28.460 --> 00:37:33.739
Another big thing I like to tell people is you should talk about death.

00:37:34.339 --> 00:37:34.739
Now.

00:37:35.420 --> 00:37:36.679
Yeah, before you get sick.

00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:50.699
And I mentioned this before that years ago, I wrote my parents this book and it said I'm dead now what and so try to make light of everybody dies, everybody is going to die.

00:37:51.940 --> 00:37:56.679
So tell me now what you want for your, your wishes.

00:37:56.739 --> 00:37:57.359
Right.

00:37:57.779 --> 00:38:02.119
But let's open up because other people that don't and just shut it down.

00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:06.379
I mean, like I said, I'm in my fifties, but I could pass tomorrow.

00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:08.639
Or I could pass when I'm 99.

00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:11.759
Like, nobody knows, but you should be prepared.

00:38:12.500 --> 00:38:14.420
People that do not prepare ahead of time.

00:38:14.579 --> 00:38:15.980
I just think that that's very selfish.

00:38:16.799 --> 00:38:20.139
Because the people that are left behind to do all that work.

00:38:20.359 --> 00:38:24.900
I mean, that, that is a lot like I didn't and we were prepared.

00:38:25.139 --> 00:38:41.239
My mom's very prepared from all the, you know, financial stuff that I guess with her and my father, but it was still so much to like those phone calls to like, any like, you know, cancel your third cell phone.

00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:50.219
I mean, it's, it takes a village to go through all of that and then plan the funeral on top of that.

00:38:51.019 --> 00:38:59.179
And I just feel like it should be something that we talk about and not wait until you're, you're sick.

00:39:00.279 --> 00:39:02.259
Yeah, that that's a hard thing for people.

00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:09.000
I think it's almost like we're feeling we're jinxing ourselves, I guess it's like, if we don't talk about death, we'll never going to die.

00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.139
I remember I was very resistant to doing a will, you know, many, many years ago.

00:39:14.859 --> 00:39:16.219
But people are like, I don't want to do a will.

00:39:16.359 --> 00:39:16.879
I'm young.

00:39:16.879 --> 00:39:21.279
It's like, so these are the things that we realize that, you know, everybody has their time.

00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:33.719
And I'm sure with you doing this work now, when you're, when you're literally talking to people every day who's lost a loved one, you're very aware that people can pass it at any age, it doesn't, you know, we don't all get to be 99.

00:39:34.179 --> 00:39:35.319
Right, exactly.

00:39:36.059 --> 00:39:41.379
And just, I mean, who wouldn't want to write like, I say this joke to my mom all the time.

00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:50.079
I'm like, if I have the wrong flowers at your funeral, like, I don't want you to come back and haunt me, you know, just there's a way to make light of it.

00:39:50.219 --> 00:39:58.639
Like, it doesn't have to be so serious, because that is one thing that we all have in common that we all are going to die someday.

00:39:59.699 --> 00:40:05.279
And I know, like, some people are like, okay, she's like, morbid, but I'm just realistic.

00:40:05.859 --> 00:40:06.400
Yeah.

00:40:06.839 --> 00:40:12.339
And I don't have a crystal ball, I can't see when that's going to happen.

00:40:12.799 --> 00:40:17.259
But like, you know, my husband and I are both healthy, but we did all that.

00:40:18.699 --> 00:40:33.480
You know, we did it before, but then we really go deep and have, you know, the advanced directives and all of that, like, let's just do it now, why we're both good, and we have it, it's done, because God forbid, he travels a lot.

00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:45.900
You know, like, you just never know, like, in an airplane, you know, crash or something like, I'm just aware, realistic, hopeful that that will never happen until we're old.

00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.500
But I just, why wouldn't you want what you want?

00:40:52.219 --> 00:40:53.059
I've written down.

00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:53.579
Right.

00:40:54.099 --> 00:41:02.259
And also, when people die, I realized like, nobody was everyone was afraid to bring up my dad, I felt.

00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.859
And I'm like, why are it's Father's Day?

00:41:06.059 --> 00:41:08.779
Why are we not talking about dad?

00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:21.879
And so the first Father's Day, I got balloons for everybody, and wrote, write whatever name on there you want any person that you lost, a father figure.

00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.900
And we did and we wrote messages, and then we released them.

00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.179
And then we started to do that Mother's Day when my mother-in-law passed.

00:41:31.779 --> 00:41:38.299
And we, every year on his birthday, we go out and we celebrate him on his birthday.

00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:39.379
Yeah, yeah.

00:41:39.779 --> 00:41:45.559
And just to keep his memory alive, I always talk about him, I always bring him up.

00:41:46.019 --> 00:41:51.859
And if I knew that it made my mom uncomfortable, then of course, I would tone it down.

00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:58.420
But it's just like, he was such a part of our lives, why not talk about him?

00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:00.079
And a lot of people can't do that.

00:42:00.759 --> 00:42:00.859
Yeah.

00:42:01.420 --> 00:42:02.819
You know, it's tough.

00:42:03.299 --> 00:42:06.259
So do you still have contact with your father now?

00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:11.659
Because I know a lot of times people who are mediums say they have difficulty reaching their own loved ones.

00:42:12.099 --> 00:42:13.799
So do you still have contact with your father?

00:42:14.799 --> 00:42:15.139
I do.

00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:22.679
Whenever I feel I still have a hard time differentiating who's talking to me.

00:42:23.819 --> 00:42:26.960
But with my dad, it's just a feeling.

00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:28.199
I just know it's him.

00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:37.759
But there's times where I like, I guess you're taking a little break, or maybe you're talking to mom or something.

00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:49.799
And I think when he pulled back a little bit, I think he was trying to give me the confidence to learn it all this without him.

00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.279
Like, you know, when we have guides, like, I don't know who my guides names are.

00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:57.719
Some people like, Oh, I have this, these crazy names.

00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:03.319
I've been told some names, but I don't know if it's accurate.

00:43:03.319 --> 00:43:14.940
And that's what I struggled with a lot, because I'm so like, hey, I needed to know their names, I want to know what they look like, I want to know what they're here for, who my guardian angels are.

00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:19.980
And I just feel like there's a collective team out there.

00:43:21.460 --> 00:43:30.059
And, you know, I'm starting to distinguish like, I know what my body does when my dad's around, I get like tingling on the back of my neck.

00:43:30.579 --> 00:43:35.819
Or when it's an angel presence versus somebody that passed away presence.

00:43:36.859 --> 00:43:54.299
You know, I'm honing in on all of those, you know, feelings, or that feeling in your gut, like, don't turn down that road, like, and then you find out there was a car accident, you know, things like that, I ignored for so long.

00:43:54.699 --> 00:43:56.659
And now I do not.

00:43:57.139 --> 00:43:57.639
Yeah.

00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.500
So, and it's not now I'm just not finding out the bad things.

00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:08.500
I also know when some I feel like, no, this is going to be good, we need this, we should go do this or okay.

00:44:09.420 --> 00:44:10.799
So that makes me feel good.

00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:25.279
I mean, I can always read like, someone's colorings off, I mean, just like basic stuff, but I'm not getting those intuitive hits as much about impending deaths, or anything, thank God.

00:44:25.839 --> 00:44:30.019
Yeah, unless I really want to, I guess I could hone in on that.

00:44:30.739 --> 00:44:40.199
But, you know, I don't really want to know, you know, I want to just live each day, and just help other people.

00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:47.400
So, Tammy, I'm really curious about your process, because it is fairly unique, you know, use a picture, and you're right.

00:44:47.659 --> 00:44:52.400
So when you were going through mediumship training, did anybody try to say, this is not the way to do it, Tammy?

00:44:53.500 --> 00:44:54.500
No, they didn't.

00:44:54.879 --> 00:44:56.400
I came up with that on my own.

00:44:56.739 --> 00:44:56.839
Okay.

00:44:57.059 --> 00:45:04.279
You know, like, they were trying to teach me all the other ways, and I still have to do everything I was taught.

00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:16.299
I think for me, having the fear of getting it wrong, it gave me the confidence, because I'm not, person's not sitting across from me.

00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:26.079
And I feel, and it might change the way I do it, I might be able to do it with someone sitting right next to me.

00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.500
But it's just what works for me.

00:45:33.699 --> 00:45:36.379
And then it makes it unique.

00:45:36.699 --> 00:45:37.879
And it doesn't take time.

00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.900
Like, everyone's like, with your schedule, like, I want to do a reading.

00:45:41.099 --> 00:45:44.239
I'm like, you just have to send me a photo, we don't need to schedule anything.

00:45:45.019 --> 00:45:56.420
If they want to call me, they can, and I can step on.

00:45:57.099 --> 00:46:01.279
And then you could either, you know, give me validation or not.

00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:07.460
Like, I still, it's still hard, because I'll send, you know, the information like I did with you.

00:46:07.699 --> 00:46:13.599
And then you're like, okay, like, you know, you pray, you're like, I hope this helped, or I hope something resonated.

00:46:14.539 --> 00:46:19.619
You know, you just don't know, because some people don't aren't so specific with me.

00:46:20.099 --> 00:46:23.819
But I'm like, tell me if I'm not, like, I'm okay, I can handle that.

00:46:24.619 --> 00:46:29.079
Um, because in the beginning, I think I was doing too many at once.

00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.859
And I was getting like, drained.

00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.139
But I don't, I don't want people to wait.

00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.739
Because I know, I know what it feels like to get that reassurance.

00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:43.239
Right.

00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:53.699
So I'm curious how much feedback you do get, as you said, because like you sent me about five pages of handwritten material.

00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:58.119
And so do you what are what are what's some of the feedback you've gotten?

00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.799
Have you had any like really crazy things that you came up with?

00:47:00.799 --> 00:47:03.900
And if you wrote that down, is that this can't possibly be true?

00:47:04.460 --> 00:47:05.179
Oh, yes.

00:47:05.579 --> 00:47:10.019
And there were in the beginning, I was just like, Oh, I'm not gonna write that down.

00:47:10.219 --> 00:47:11.599
Like, I don't even know what this means.

00:47:12.579 --> 00:47:21.659
And one that stands out the biggest was, I kept seeing the socks that were like crazy designs on these socks.

00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:30.739
And when it came through again, I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna write this like, I'm seeing crazy socks, like funky socks, colors, shapes.

00:47:31.379 --> 00:47:36.440
And she said, it was her son that passed his 20s, I believe.

00:47:37.099 --> 00:47:38.859
And he always wore crazy socks.

00:47:38.859 --> 00:47:41.639
And they made a pillow out of all his socks.

00:47:42.319 --> 00:47:44.440
So he validated that for that.

00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.879
So now I don't omit anything.

00:47:49.279 --> 00:47:53.980
Because it has a meaning to them, it might not mean anything to me.

00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.779
And somehow it comes through or like a certain song.

00:47:59.579 --> 00:48:10.599
And they'll like, oh my god, after you're reading, I got in my car and that song was on making people aware of when they're like, I don't get any signs.

00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:21.339
And I said, well, they say that they're doing this, that there could be something so subtle, like the way the light comes through their, their blinds in the morning.

00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:28.199
You know, not always the standard things, a warm feeling on your shoulder.

00:48:30.819 --> 00:48:37.400
And when I say that, I go, you just have I gave my own mom does that dad doesn't send me any signs.

00:48:37.799 --> 00:48:39.299
And I go, yes, he does.

00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:46.219
And he made a point to, to change all the photos in her house.

00:48:47.379 --> 00:48:53.239
Crooked like he went in because she was like, I don't get any signs, like just busy.

00:48:53.539 --> 00:48:56.960
And my dad had like putty behind each photo.

00:48:57.299 --> 00:48:59.839
There's you could not move those pictures.

00:49:00.779 --> 00:49:02.799
So that's how he got her attention.

00:49:03.299 --> 00:49:07.679
So now she's more aware, you know, and I'm always outside.

00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.940
So I'll always see my little my cardinals still comes almost daily.

00:49:13.460 --> 00:49:27.440
And one story, which I've shared before was when we were in Italy, the crazy things were happening, like Miss luggage, Miss trains, planes, automobiles, like it was just there's 12 of us.

00:49:28.359 --> 00:49:33.879
And I said, Dad, if this is happening for a reason, send me a sign.

00:49:35.539 --> 00:49:39.440
And I asked for some reason I asked for a colorful bird.

00:49:39.759 --> 00:49:40.799
I don't know why.

00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:50.339
The next day walking and I looked down and there was this big bird that looked like it.

00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:51.139
I don't know.

00:49:51.259 --> 00:49:55.420
It was a golden pheasant and it had like six different colors on it.

00:49:56.799 --> 00:49:58.960
And it's just two of them following me.

00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:04.379
And it didn't click at all that I asked for that sign.

00:50:04.699 --> 00:50:08.539
And I got and after that, everything was fine with our trip.

00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:10.480
We don't know why it was happening.

00:50:10.739 --> 00:50:11.839
All these things happened.

00:50:12.839 --> 00:50:16.099
He said to make all I heard him say, you're just making memories.

00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.599
And, you know, it's an unforgettable trip.

00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:20.539
And it was.

00:50:21.659 --> 00:50:24.739
But that was like undeniable.

00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:34.440
And one time, on his one year anniversary, we went on a little mother daughter trip and my phone announced dad calling.

00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.679
And my phone never announces, but my phone's always on silent.

00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.379
And that was crazy.

00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:49.940
So he he did that for me, because I was with my mom, my sister, and our daughters.

00:50:50.460 --> 00:50:50.559
Yeah.

00:50:51.299 --> 00:50:54.460
Because like I said, I was always getting them when I was alone.

00:50:54.460 --> 00:50:58.259
So they were like, and it rang twice and stopped.

00:50:58.799 --> 00:51:01.219
And I'll never take his name off my phone.

00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:03.900
You know, I'm sure now it's a different number.

00:51:04.619 --> 00:51:04.719
Right.

00:51:05.799 --> 00:51:07.460
You know, to me, that's too final.

00:51:08.359 --> 00:51:11.079
Yeah, I can I can understand that.

00:51:11.940 --> 00:51:16.639
So we've talked about signs and with all the different ways that people get signs.

00:51:16.759 --> 00:51:20.659
And I really appreciate that because people a lot of times I've heard the same thing.

00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:30.219
I never get signs, except for the fact that I see 11 11 all the time, or except for the fact that there's always this cardinal pecking on my window, you know, or whatever it is.

00:51:30.219 --> 00:51:40.699
It's like, okay, that that's your sign, because there are very many ways to get signs for so for someone who's like early in grief for the trying to figure out, how do I ask for science?

00:51:40.739 --> 00:51:41.639
How do I get signs?

00:51:41.739 --> 00:51:43.000
What's your advice to them?

00:51:44.379 --> 00:51:49.940
Um, I say the biggest thing is just being aware.

00:51:52.369 --> 00:51:57.690
And even if you don't want to meditate, just being alone, like being in silence.

00:51:59.349 --> 00:52:01.969
And I would say I'm very specific.

00:52:03.250 --> 00:52:04.569
I would like to see.

00:52:05.690 --> 00:52:16.250
And even if you want to be like, out of the ordinary, like, I want to see something that's like an Oh, my God sign, like, I'm gonna see a giraffe.

00:52:16.650 --> 00:52:20.389
Okay, we're not gonna see a giraffe, at least in Pennsylvania walking down the road.

00:52:20.869 --> 00:52:24.349
But you may see a picture of a giraffe.

00:52:25.389 --> 00:52:39.230
You know, whether it's on TV, whatever you ask, and you say, or even if you want to see like a blue jay or a certain animal or something you say, within 24 hours, I want to get to be very specific.

00:52:41.809 --> 00:52:45.589
And nine out of 10 times it does come.

00:52:46.730 --> 00:52:51.469
And like my dad's number, like, so I might not hear from him all the time.

00:52:51.469 --> 00:52:55.009
But there's this funny commercial that he loved.

00:52:55.009 --> 00:52:57.549
And it was something to do with the number 44.

00:52:57.809 --> 00:52:59.650
It's like a football commercial.

00:53:00.730 --> 00:53:07.589
So 44 is Oh, I always have 44% on my phone, 44 emails.

00:53:08.629 --> 00:53:13.429
It just it's like, wow, or 444, you know, at the time.

00:53:14.769 --> 00:53:18.769
And it even took me a while to pick up on that when it first started happening.

00:53:18.769 --> 00:53:23.969
And when I first started doing my readings, I like introductory price was $44.

00:53:24.730 --> 00:53:28.809
You know, and, and there's a meaning to everything.

00:53:28.809 --> 00:53:44.529
It doesn't just look that up, you put that in AI, or just Google, which is 120 to me, like, there's all there's a meaning to everything.

00:53:45.309 --> 00:54:10.789
So if you see something more than once, that's your sign, you know, it could be a smell, you know, their smell, whether they smoke cigars, or they love coffee, or they're sent, like, you know, I just think people that aren't aware of how many ways they can send, right?

00:54:11.129 --> 00:54:15.329
Like, you know, for us, our lights would go real dim.

00:54:16.389 --> 00:54:22.469
My mother in law, when she passed, we had a phone that was out of service, that just started beeping.

00:54:23.869 --> 00:54:30.129
And it had Manhattan Beach, California on it, which is where my sister-in-law lives her daughter.

00:54:31.409 --> 00:54:37.809
And I'm like, I guess she's trying to communicate with all three of us were in Philadelphia, and she's in LA.

00:54:38.690 --> 00:54:40.929
And it was right after she passed.

00:54:41.489 --> 00:54:48.210
And I'm like, maybe she was getting a lesson on how to use the electronics, or something up there.

00:54:48.329 --> 00:54:53.529
But it just was something that, you know, I knew that, like, my husband and I just started laughing.

00:54:53.769 --> 00:54:55.049
We're like, that is insane.

00:54:55.789 --> 00:54:57.069
Yeah, that that happens.

00:54:57.750 --> 00:55:01.409
And, you know, or like little things like pictures fall over.

00:55:02.409 --> 00:55:13.009
And, you know, like trying to get your attention, or hearing a little knock, like, I don't know, I just think I would before I think those things always happened.

00:55:13.969 --> 00:55:28.289
But I, again, like always have the TV on or the, you know, music that I ignored, that, you know, before my dad died, it could have been guides that were my ancestors that were trying to contact me.

00:55:29.949 --> 00:55:33.929
But they're there, you just, you just have to ask and be patient.

00:55:35.349 --> 00:55:35.449
Yeah.

00:55:36.069 --> 00:55:37.670
Yeah, well, I think you're right.

00:55:37.789 --> 00:55:39.089
We do have to be patient.

00:55:39.909 --> 00:55:42.369
Sometimes people aren't as patient as they should be.

00:55:42.549 --> 00:55:43.670
You talked about it earlier.

00:55:44.369 --> 00:55:47.909
And I'm very much a type of left brain kind of person, too.

00:55:48.109 --> 00:55:49.829
So I'm like, how does this work?

00:55:50.129 --> 00:55:53.509
And sometimes it will take them a while to get the signs to us.

00:55:54.150 --> 00:56:00.969
We don't know if they're like, you know, manipulating air currents or, you know, how that whole process works.

00:56:01.190 --> 00:56:06.509
But we do know from our experience is that it definitely does, it does happen.

00:56:07.449 --> 00:56:11.789
So I want to, when it comes to mediumship, you know, people have different ideas about it.

00:56:11.929 --> 00:56:17.849
You mentioned earlier that you're, you're Catholic by, by birth, I think sometimes people say you're Catholic background.

00:56:18.769 --> 00:56:24.049
What are your thoughts in terms of like, what is the role of mediumship in people's lives?

00:56:26.980 --> 00:56:33.319
Relating to religion or just, just in general, you said it really helped you mediumship.

00:56:33.460 --> 00:56:34.759
How did, how did it help you?

00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.639
And in your experience, when you do readings for other people, how does it help them?

00:56:39.879 --> 00:56:43.400
I guess it validates that they're not really gone.

00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.639
They're not here present in our lives.

00:56:49.940 --> 00:56:53.559
They know everything that's happening in our lives.

00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:59.480
And it just seems like it's such a great place.

00:57:00.460 --> 00:57:06.400
Like, like, if you read about near death experiences, like none of them want to come back.

00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:18.920
And that almost brings me to feel bad these people went through these, you know, NDEs, but it's like, they just say, oh, so beautiful and serene.

00:57:19.279 --> 00:57:33.339
And, and you look like at the best you've ever looked like you can go back to like, I see my father, who was 81 when he passed, I see him a lot in his like thirties.

00:57:34.319 --> 00:57:36.179
So I'm like, did you pick that aged out?

00:57:36.339 --> 00:57:38.299
Or how does that, I don't know how it works.

00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:45.920
But like, I see him in his like army reserves uniform a lot, you know, which, you know, I was young then.

00:57:46.879 --> 00:57:52.019
And just, I think that's what it is.

00:57:52.059 --> 00:57:53.139
It's just validation.

00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.000
Like, yes, they're physically not here.

00:57:56.619 --> 00:58:04.359
But this medium that helped me so much who I still am friends with to this day and still reach out to her.

00:58:05.980 --> 00:58:18.099
Like, there's no way she could have known those things that like things in the past, or even like what I did the day before, you know, or how he came to me.

00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.980
And I was just, who wouldn't want that?

00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:22.539
I don't know.

00:58:22.699 --> 00:58:25.420
I just, that just brings you peace.

00:58:25.699 --> 00:58:27.079
Like, yes, they're not here.

00:58:28.319 --> 00:58:29.719
You know, would I want them here?

00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:30.500
Absolutely.

00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:39.339
But they are very aware, like, even like, for celebrations, they come.

00:58:40.099 --> 00:58:41.339
Yeah, often.

00:58:41.859 --> 00:58:54.480
So when you light birthday candles, there might be a flame that's a little bit smaller than, you know, one or one that, you know, is larger, or one that won't blow out.

00:58:54.480 --> 00:59:03.579
Like, they try to, to let us know that they're there, or look at the photos after a celebration.

00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:10.619
Like, I can pick up on, you know, I can see like a little orb, or I can see like a shadow sometimes.

00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.719
And like, my niece got married last year.

00:59:13.940 --> 00:59:16.659
And, you know, of course, we were all really missing my father.

00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:26.159
And, you know, I definitely saw I didn't, they'll know now, but I didn't tell any of them that I saw him in a lot of the photographs.

00:59:26.759 --> 00:59:26.859
Yeah.

00:59:27.279 --> 00:59:31.359
And I can't see with the naked eye spirits, I can feel them.

00:59:31.879 --> 00:59:33.819
But I can see them in photographs.

00:59:34.359 --> 00:59:34.599
Interesting.

00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:36.199
Yeah, very interesting.

00:59:36.619 --> 00:59:49.799
You know, and I'm sure if I sometimes that you have to edit it to really see, you know, with the contrast and the lighting, or I can just see that there's a presence there.

00:59:51.159 --> 01:00:02.879
And, you know, so I think with mediumship, and it's almost like a stigma, you know, like being psychic media, and like woo woo stuff.

01:00:03.539 --> 01:00:06.159
It's really not, I just say I'm intuitive.

01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.980
I'm intuitive, I can sense people's feelings.

01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:14.659
And yes, I can talk to dead people.

01:00:15.359 --> 01:00:17.339
Yeah, but I'm not crazy.

01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:20.519
I am just I am doing this.

01:00:21.739 --> 01:00:22.980
Not even for my business.

01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:32.940
It's not even like I feel funny even calling it a business because it's just a way to get that pain off of somebody's chest.

01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:33.539
Yeah.

01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.119
And that's the feedback that I've received.

01:00:36.739 --> 01:00:36.839
Yeah.

01:00:37.699 --> 01:00:42.579
And I really appreciate you saying that because I've known I've known a lot of mediums.

01:00:42.759 --> 01:00:46.219
And, you know, of course, it is a business for a lot of people.

01:00:46.420 --> 01:00:50.679
And we all have to eat and make money and, you know, pay bills, all that stuff.

01:00:51.119 --> 01:01:02.059
But the people I know that do it because because it's a service, because they want to help people they want, they want to alleviate that the worst thing that we go through, which is grief, and that feeling of loss.

01:01:02.299 --> 01:01:04.159
And you said it so well.

01:01:04.379 --> 01:01:14.980
The thing is, is that validation that our loved ones continue, you know, a lot of times people do we will go to church and we will hear these things.

01:01:15.500 --> 01:01:21.859
But when it actually comes down to when someone actually passes, we want to know a little bit more than that.

01:01:22.359 --> 01:01:31.239
And that validation can be so, so helpful when someone can tell you, you know, in a way that they provide you with evidence that their loved one is still around.

01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:32.480
Yes.

01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:33.259
Yeah.

01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:40.259
And yeah, that's all I always like I need validation for a lot in my life, which I'm trying not to.

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But with this, it's, I don't know, it just warms my heart, like, and I love, I love doing that for other people.

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And I still get readings, because, like I said, like, he might not be coming to me as much.

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I like to see what other people pick up on.

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Or, you know, that maybe I'm missing if my dad's communicating with me or my mother-in-law or anyone that I've lost.

01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:15.559
And, and just to see their style, too, and try to learn from other mediums.

01:02:15.819 --> 01:02:15.920
Yeah.

01:02:16.319 --> 01:02:22.460
And, you know, it's still like, you still have to just like, with physical therapy, how to take continuing education courses.

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I still have, you still have to work that muscle.

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I mean, you know, I have to work it every day.

01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:30.539
Yeah.

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To stay active.

01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:33.619
I don't want to lose it.

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Like, I'm so afraid I'm going to lose it.

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Like, I dream every night.

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I know I'm dreaming, but I opened my eyes and it's gone.

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And that is, you know, for me, that can get hits like that.

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It's so frustrating.

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Yeah.

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But I just have to just go with it.

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I'm like, all right, one day I will remember it's leading up to something.

01:02:55.420 --> 01:02:55.719
Yeah.

01:02:56.219 --> 01:03:07.119
You know, but not every, like, I could never see myself like the Long Island medium type in, you know, hundreds of people and battling things out.

01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:08.299
That's not my style.

01:03:08.539 --> 01:03:08.819
Right.

01:03:09.420 --> 01:03:09.579
Yeah.

01:03:09.579 --> 01:03:15.579
I'm more like, you know, just alone and like to just do it and just give people peace.

01:03:15.819 --> 01:03:18.599
I don't want a big fanfare or anything like that.

01:03:18.900 --> 01:03:19.000
Yeah.

01:03:19.219 --> 01:03:31.659
Well, everyone's got their role to play and everyone, you know, has a different technique, which I appreciate your teachers not trying to change you because I know people that have gotten to take me through courses and they're like, this is the way I do it.

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And the teachers, no, no, no, this is the way we do mediumship.

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And I think there is many ways to do mediumship as there are mediums out there.

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It's going to be a little bit different for everybody.

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Some people hear things, some people see things, some people sense things.

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So it's going to be different for everyone.

01:03:48.819 --> 01:03:48.920
Yeah.

01:03:49.299 --> 01:03:54.139
So, all right, Tammy, we're coming to the end of our time, but I know people are going to want to reach out to you.

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So how can people, how can people reach you?

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So I have an Instagram page called Divine Lens Readings.

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And they can just direct message me there.

01:04:07.619 --> 01:04:10.559
Or I don't know if you add that on your show notes.

01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:11.559
Oh yeah, I can do that.

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And that's it.

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And people just send me a photo and I write out what I get.

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And what I do is a special price for anybody that's a podcast listener.

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So like a discounted price.

01:04:29.779 --> 01:04:31.539
So right now my readings are 111.

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So I usually do like a half off of that.

01:04:36.779 --> 01:04:40.199
So they will do it for 55 or something.

01:04:40.500 --> 01:04:44.960
Okay, so if someone just sends you a message on Instagram and says they heard heard you on grief to growth.

01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:45.759
Yes.

01:04:46.219 --> 01:04:46.400
Okay.

01:04:46.779 --> 01:04:48.099
That's all they have to say.

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And from whenever this podcast is released, I, you know, I'm really flexible, very easy going, you know, within like a month of it being out, like, okay.

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And just message me and I will honor that.

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And usually takes, it just depends on what's going on.

01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:11.539
But I don't believe anyone has waited longer than 24 to 48 hours for a reading.

01:05:11.819 --> 01:05:12.460
Oh, okay.

01:05:12.699 --> 01:05:15.819
I know, I know people are waiting lists of four years.

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So it's pretty good.

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I might be like that.

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But I'm safe that I try to get it to them as soon as possible.

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Because I know it.

01:05:25.139 --> 01:05:25.719
Yeah, that's awesome.

01:05:26.279 --> 01:05:31.279
Yeah, well, I really appreciate the work that you're doing, that you're that you're paying it forward.

01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:32.460
I think it's great.

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I'm glad I got to meet you this afternoon.

01:05:34.299 --> 01:05:36.319
So yeah, thanks for being here.

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Thank you very much.