🌱 What if grief is not the end, but the beginning of something sacred?
In this transformative episode of Grief to Growth, host Brian Smith welcomes back Sally Hawk, founder of VerySoul.com, and evidential medium Sherry Abdou. Together, they explore how spirit itself inspired the creation of a global mediumship platform—and how it’s changing thousands of lives across the world.
Sally shares her incredible journey from corporate executive to spiritual visionary, led by a mission: to make ethical, affordable, and reliable spirit communication available to everyone. With over 2,500 vetted mediums and 100,000+ spirit communications, VerySoul is not just a directory—it's a spiritual movement 🌍💫
You’ll also hear from Sherry, an intuitive who discovered her gifts while caring for her dying father—and whose journey through the loss of her own child deepened her calling. Today, she’s served hundreds through VerySoul, offering comfort, healing, and validation for those grieving parents, spouses, siblings, and friends.
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00:00 🌱 What If Grief Is Planting, Not Burial?
Brian opens with a powerful metaphor on how grief plants us like seeds—preparing us for growth and transformation.
01:02 🎙️ Welcome & Mission of Grief to Growth
Brian introduces the podcast’s core mission: hope, healing, and understanding life beyond death.
02:08 💫 Reintroducing Sally Hawk & VerySoul
Sally returns to share how VerySoul has grown from a concept into a global spiritual movement.
03:36 🔍 What Is VerySoul & Why It Was Created
Sally explains how Spirit inspired VerySoul to fix the biggest issues in mediumship: access, trust, and affordability.
05:25 🧠 Mediumship from Spirit’s Perspective
Brian and Sally flip the script: how Spirit works to reach *us*—and how VerySoul supports their mission.
06:27 🕊️ Sherry Abdou’s Story of Loss
Sherry shares the loss of her child and how it became the doorway to deeper grief—and unexpected gifts.
08:36 🌌 The Awakening During Her Father’s Passing
Sherry reveals the dreamlike moments and spiritual insights while caring for her father during hospice.
10:15 🌍 How VerySoul Works (And Why It's Different)
Sally outlines how mediums train, practice, and grow within a tech-enabled, spirit-guided community.
14:43 🧘 Sherry’s Mediumship Development
From class overload to 200+ readings, Sherry shares how VerySoul helped her grow in confidence and connection.
17:03 🔄 From Practice to Donated Readings
How practicing with mediums evolves into real-world impact through VerySoul’s free donated sessions.
20:41 🌏 Global Diversity = Stronger Mediums
Sally describes how reading across cultures accelerates growth and expands compassion in mediums.
22:20 💵 Breaking Down the Price Myth
Not all great mediums charge hundreds. Sally dispels the myth that price equals quality in this work.
25:06 💡 How VerySoul Makes Money (Spoiler: It Doesn’t)
Brian asks the money question. Sally shares their spirit-led, public-benefit structure.
27:19 ❤️ What Integrity Looks Like in Action
Sally explains how ethics and high expectations ensure VerySoul is a safe, respectful space for everyone.
31:33 👁️ Orb Moment & Mediumship Magic
Brian notices a mysterious orb on screen—one of many unexplained moments Sherry often experiences.
34:26 📲 What Clients Should Expect
Sally walks through how someone books their first session—and how Spirit helps guide their choice.
36:29 🔮 Picking the “Right” Medium
Forget logic—Sally says intuition (and Spirit) are your best guides to finding the right connection.
38:53 🧠 Mediumship as a Learned Skill
Sherry busts the myth of the “gifted” medium. This is a skill—and one that evolves with time, trauma, and trust.
42:45 🛠️ Changing Perceptions of Mediums
Sally and Sherry share what they wish people knew about what real, ethical mediumship looks and feels like.
46:58 🎯 Misconceptions & Spiritual Readiness
Brian reflects on skeptics, the fraud myth, and how meaningful readings change minds *and* lives.
48:45 🔍 What Makes a Truly Transformative Reading
It’s not just about evidence—it’s about presence, compassion, and emotional resonance.
52:55 🪄 Unexpected Validations from Spirit
Sherry and Brian share jaw-dropping moments of spirit communication—proof you can’t explain away.
58:35 📊 Where VerySoul Is Headed Next
Sally shares their bold goal: 1 million sessions by 2026—and how every connection brings us closer.
1:00:35 🙌 Final Reflections & Thank You
Brian wraps up the conversation with deep gratitude for Sally, Sherry, and the mission of VerySoul.
