Why We’re Really Here: Karma, Grief & The Soul’s Purpose w/ Hans Wilhelm | EP 458

[Speaker 1] [0.56s] Close your eyes and imagine what are the things in life that cause us the greatest pain, the things that bring us grief, or challenges, challenges designed to help us grow to ultimately become what we were always meant to be.
[Speaker 1] [17.18s] We feel like we've been buried.
[Speaker 1] [19.26s] But what if like a seed we've been planted, and having been planted, we grow to become a mighty tree.
[Speaker 1] [27.98s] Now, open your eyes, Open your eyes to this way of viewing life.
[Speaker 1] [33.21s] Come with me as we explore your true infinite, eternal nature.
[Speaker 1] [38.81s] This is grief to growth.
[Speaker 1] [40.73s] And I am your host, Brian Smith.
[Speaker 2] [46.18s] Hey there, everyone.
[Speaker 2] [46.98s] I'm Brian Smith, and welcome to Grief two Growth.
[Speaker 2] [48.82s] And whether this is your first time joining us or you've been with me for a while, I am so glad that you're here.
[Speaker 2] [53.78s] This podcast is a place where you ask the big questions in life.
[Speaker 2] [57.14s] Who are we?
[Speaker 2] [58.02s] Why are we here?
[Speaker 2] [59.49s] Where are we going?
[Speaker 2] [60.45s] What happens when we die?
[Speaker 2] [61.65s] All those types of things.
[Speaker 2] [63.25s] And most importantly, how do we navigate the challenges of our life with hope and with resilience.
[Speaker 2] [68.21s] And so today's episode is one that you're not going to want to miss.
[Speaker 2] [71.65s] My guest is Hans Wilhelm is a mystic, a spiritual teacher and the creator of the wildly popular YouTube series, life explained.
[Speaker 2] [79.63s] For more than thirteen years, has been producing visually engaging, thought provoking videos that bring the spiritual laws of the universe to life, literally by drawing them out on the screen.
[Speaker 2] [89.85s] With over 170 short videos watched by more than 20,000,000 viewers.
[Speaker 2] [94.17s] Hans is a gift for simplifying deep metaphysical truths in a way that resonates with seekers of all backgrounds.
[Speaker 2] [100.69s] He's also the author and illustrator of over 200 books for people of all ages, with over 40,000,000 copies sold and translated into 30 languages, including collaborations with Byron Katie.
[Speaker 2] [112.13s] But today, he's not here to talk about his books.
[Speaker 2] [114.13s] His mission is to go deeper to help us understand the spiritual framework that underlies our lives, particularly when we face loss, when we face grief and questions about death, dying and the afterlife.
[Speaker 2] [126.43s] So in this conversation, we're gonna explore questions like, what is the true purpose of our life here on Earth?
[Speaker 2] [131.86s] How can understanding spiritual loss help us heal from loss?
[Speaker 2] [135.47s] What happens to us after we die?
[Speaker 2] [137.06s] And what role do grief, suicide, and mourning play in our soul's evolution?
[Speaker 2] [142.10s] So whether you're grieving, whether you're spiritually curious, or you're simply looking to make sense of your experiences here on Earth, Hans brings a gentle wisdom and clarity that may just shift your entire perspective.
[Speaker 2] [154.31s] And after this is over, after the episodes over, you're done viewing it, go to grieftogrowth.substack.com to continue the conversation there.
[Speaker 2] [162.56s] And with that, I wanna welcome Hans Wilhelm.
[Speaker 3] [165.84s] Brian, thank you.
[Speaker 3] [166.72s] Thank you for the great introduction.
[Speaker 3] [168.72s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [168.97s] We will have talked a lot of interesting stuff.
[Speaker 3] [171.13s] Looking forward to our session together.
[Speaker 3] [173.40s] Lovely to meet you personally, and I admire the work you are doing in helping all those people who suddenly are confronted with something they didn't expect and how to deal with it.
[Speaker 3] [182.20s] And very few people are actually prepared to handle situations like this, if and at all.
[Speaker 2] [187.78s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [188.09s] Well, I'm one of those weird people that have always had these questions.
[Speaker 2] [190.58s] I I I arrived on the planet about we're about five years old going, what is going on here?
[Speaker 2] [195.86s] Why am I here?
[Speaker 2] [197.38s] You know, what what what is what is the deal?
[Speaker 2] [199.69s] I know for a lot of us, we don't ask those questions until we're kind of shaken out of the the stupid, it seems like, we've all fallen into.
[Speaker 2] [206.72s] So I know, you know, you've you've got this these hugely popular videos.
[Speaker 2] [210.56s] The one that really caught my eye is, like, what's our life purpose?
[Speaker 2] [213.84s] Because I think it's really interesting.
[Speaker 2] [215.28s] Right?
[Speaker 2] [215.60s] Most of us go through our whole lives, and we're like, why am I here?
[Speaker 2] [219.37s] So how can you help us answer that?
[Speaker 3] [222.32s] Well, just like to mention that also, like yourself, I went through many spiritual paths.
[Speaker 3] [226.49s] And for the last forty years, I have been very much attached to a spiritual path that was given to us by a woman in Germany.
[Speaker 3] [232.55s] Her name is Gabriela, and you see all the blue books behind me.
[Speaker 3] [235.75s] She has got a huge library in Germany, which called the Sofia Library.
[Speaker 3] [239.77s] And this material which really resonates with me after having done so many other spiritual path.
[Speaker 3] [245.28s] But this one works because it's in today's language, and it comes from the highest level of, reality.
[Speaker 3] [251.05s] And, it is absolutely ingenious and simple.
[Speaker 3] [253.79s] That's what I'm using for my videos.
[Speaker 3] [255.55s] And in my videos, I illustrate basically these laws, these spiritual laws.
[Speaker 3] [259.31s] Like here, the law of karma, like somebody's hitting someone and it's stored in the soul, in the body, in the Akashic records, in the planets from where eventually returns in this future lifetimes.
[Speaker 3] [270.04s] When one sees this, it becomes so much clearer.
[Speaker 3] [273.16s] And in the search, of course, I find also the answer for me, what is the purpose of my life or purpose for most lives?
[Speaker 3] [280.26s] And Gabriel is very clearly, for the majority of people, we are here on planet Earth to undo our karma, which we have created in past lives.
[Speaker 3] [289.86s] Now it's not for everybody, but for most of us.
[Speaker 3] [292.44s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [292.75s] Because reincarnation is not an an an a myth or whatever.
[Speaker 3] [296.60s] It is a fact.
[Speaker 3] [297.24s] And there's also something what Christ had taught in great detail and which was been taken out of Christ's teaching in the fifth century by emperor Justinian.
[Speaker 3] [306.31s] So we have reincarnation, which means we have lived many lives before, and we will probably live many several lives after this.
[Speaker 3] [313.59s] And our time here on planet Earth is very limited.
[Speaker 3] [317.19s] Earth is not our home planet.
[Speaker 3] [318.71s] It is a school.
[Speaker 3] [319.67s] It's a amazing school where we can learn in very short time the lessons that we have to learn, like love, compassion, and undoing our karma, which means basically to either expiate the pain we have given others and ourselves or through forgiveness and undoing our karma through that.
[Speaker 3] [337.00s] That is our big purpose.
[Speaker 3] [338.68s] And then we have also individual purposes.
[Speaker 3] [340.84s] Like, we want to learn to love or compassion.
[Speaker 3] [343.24s] But I think the main purpose in my life at any moment is to deal what is right before me in this moment.
[Speaker 3] [350.87s] My main purpose in life is to speak now with Brian Smith.
[Speaker 3] [354.14s] There's just no other purpose in life for me right now.
[Speaker 3] [357.66s] And if I focus on that one and the next moment and the next moment, I will automatically be guided to always fulfill my purpose.
[Speaker 3] [366.36s] Does it answer your question in
[Speaker 2] [367.80s] a way?
[Speaker 2] [368.20s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [368.44s] And it's really interesting.
[Speaker 2] [369.56s] I love that because, you know, we sometimes think of our purpose like it's this big thing.
[Speaker 2] [374.60s] It's it's it's something that's that's way off in the future.
[Speaker 2] [378.37s] I love that.
[Speaker 2] [379.00s] Like, let's focus on the moment.
[Speaker 2] [380.52s] What can I do right here in this moment and your our purpose right now is to communicate with each other as we take those those small steps that lead to that that bigger purpose, if I understand you correctly?
[Speaker 3] [392.08s] Absolutely.
[Speaker 3] [392.88s] Because when we think about this big purpose, which should be what we dream of long to become a great inventor of something like this, something big, or we all are a mission, That very often comes from our ego.
[Speaker 3] [404.32s] We want to be somebody important.
[Speaker 3] [406.00s] We want to be somebody admired, respected, etcetera, etcetera.
[Speaker 3] [409.60s] So these big plans of purpose very often come from not our highest self.
[Speaker 3] [414.63s] Our highest self is here very humbly trying to do the very best to undo mistakes and help and serve others.
[Speaker 3] [420.55s] That is a very simple but very powerful and not easy to fulfill kind of task, which all of us have.
[Speaker 3] [427.51s] But when we have got these big pictures or big ideas of what we want to be and, when I achieve this, I want to be famous and so on, that usually comes from our ego.
[Speaker 3] [437.19s] But we can always return back where we are right now.
[Speaker 3] [439.84s] Am I fulfilling my purpose right now by sitting here and scrolling through the computer and trying to avoid something like this, etcetera?
[Speaker 3] [447.57s] Or am I fulfilling doing something purposeful?
[Speaker 3] [450.37s] And they these are the smallest thing.
[Speaker 3] [452.05s] Washing the dishes can be the most important purpose of my life if that is what needs to be done right now.
[Speaker 2] [458.52s] I love that.
[Speaker 2] [459.16s] I think it's beautiful.
[Speaker 2] [460.69s] Let's talk about the idea of karma because karma
[Speaker 1] [464.13s] means a lot of things to a lot
[Speaker 2] [465.56s] of people.
[Speaker 2] [466.44s] And you talked about, you know, the idea of, I guess, maybe undoing some karma.
[Speaker 2] [470.69s] So tell me what karma means to you.
[Speaker 2] [472.44s] How would you define karma?
[Speaker 3] [475.54s] My understanding is that we are the children of God, and whatever you will imagine God will be, I will not go into this.
[Speaker 3] [481.54s] Everybody is a different image.
[Speaker 3] [482.74s] Let's say that's God, whatever it is, energy, God, father, whatever it could be.
[Speaker 3] [486.98s] But we're his children.
[Speaker 3] [489.06s] And god is perfection, and god is love.
[Speaker 3] [491.94s] And we are thus love and perfection in our true origin as well.
[Speaker 3] [497.62s] Whenever we have deviated from our true essence, which is love, through thinking, acting, speaking, feeling against the law of love, we have basically vibrationally removed ourselves a little bit from divinity.
[Speaker 3] [512.05s] And that is like a shadow we have put on our soul, the soul shadow, and that is basically the karma.
[Speaker 3] [518.39s] So we have burdened ourselves every time we are not loving kind and, yeah, not acting against, and, and reacting against or speaking against the law of love.
[Speaker 3] [529.10s] And therefore, we have removed ourselves from source, and we feel lonely, separated, but we have done it ourselves.
[Speaker 3] [535.34s] God hasn't removed itself.
[Speaker 3] [536.70s] God is in us anyway.
[Speaker 3] [538.30s] But we think we have removed ourselves by continuously thinking, speaking, acting, and feeling against the law of love.
[Speaker 3] [546.07s] And so, basically, karma is all these kind of unlawful, unloving words, actions, which we have done, which are which have to be undone one day because they are there.
[Speaker 3] [558.03s] So how do we undo our karma?
[Speaker 3] [560.19s] So the two things, either we do it through forgiveness, we forgive the person who has hurt us, or we ask for forgiveness for the person.
[Speaker 3] [567.47s] Is it?
[Speaker 3] [567.79s] Christ said, 70 times 70, we forgive and so on.
[Speaker 3] [570.83s] It's a very important thing.
[Speaker 3] [572.13s] Forgiveness eliminates the karma.
[Speaker 3] [574.46s] Or if we can't do that, then sometimes we have to expiate the karma, which means it may flow through our body as an illness.
[Speaker 3] [580.86s] It may come as a loss of job, a loss of something painful, blow of fate.
[Speaker 3] [585.91s] That can be karmic things which are coming back to us from the planets because all the karma that we have uploaded over time is stored in the planet Earth system.
[Speaker 3] [596.31s] That's where astrology originally comes from.
[Speaker 3] [598.76s] So when these planets move or in a certain constellation or full, then they download, like in a computer, the stuff back to us.
[Speaker 3] [607.08s] But they always download it very carefully, Dawson.
[Speaker 3] [610.37s] We we never get too much.
[Speaker 3] [612.49s] It's always in accordance to what can our soul bear at this moment.
[Speaker 3] [617.21s] We may think it's too much, but it's never too much.
[Speaker 3] [620.25s] But it is just carefully calibrated to what we can deal with right now in this lifetime.
[Speaker 3] [625.45s] And there we have to either feel the pain that we have given others, ourselves, or nature, mother nature, or we can so forgiveness asking for forgiveness for remorse can undo this as well.
[Speaker 3] [637.13s] That is basically my understanding of karma.
[Speaker 3] [640.64s] Okay.
[Speaker 2] [641.52s] And the this the system that you're talking about, the the books that you study, the system you say, is that I I see I hear some similarities to Christianity in there.
[Speaker 2] [650.48s] Is this channeled material, or where does it come from?
[Speaker 3] [653.35s] It is channeled material.
[Speaker 3] [654.71s] Like, if you there's one is one of his books here, for instance, is Christ himself, the great cosmic teaching of Jesus of Nazareth, his apostle disciples who could understand them.
[Speaker 3] [664.95s] This is a free teaching, which means there is no organization.
[Speaker 3] [668.69s] There are no teachers.
[Speaker 3] [670.05s] There are no priests.
[Speaker 3] [671.09s] This is, material which came for anybody who is interested in it.
[Speaker 3] [675.09s] So you don't have to join anything.
[Speaker 3] [677.17s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [677.33s] You just the books or the other or the CDs or whatever you like if you want to listen it.
[Speaker 3] [682.50s] And that I liked because most other spiritual path have got some kind of membership, or you have to sort of or you you buy yourself into higher stages and so on.
[Speaker 3] [693.23s] This is totally free because the message here is freedom, freedom, freedom.
[Speaker 3] [698.04s] We want to become free from everything that binds us to this world.
[Speaker 3] [702.04s] And this means also become free of any organization and things like this, which sort of try to control us.
[Speaker 3] [708.04s] So this is really the path of freedom.
[Speaker 3] [710.53s] And Christ is, of course, here, the center figure as well, to set us free here because he is not the church Christ, which is different because here he is about reincarnation.
[Speaker 3] [721.58s] And he is also the Christ who is in us, He's in my spark and who can help us and comfort us and also can give us healings.
[Speaker 3] [730.33s] And over the many, many years, I have used this information and also used it whenever I feel not felt not well.
[Speaker 3] [737.69s] It was quite amazing how this healing energy immediately penetrates the body if we know how to focus on it.
[Speaker 3] [744.54s] And it can really it's just it's I just have amazing to me, the proof is in the pudding.
[Speaker 3] [749.83s] I've used this material.
[Speaker 3] [751.35s] See, I've done a lot of other spiritual path, and they were very interesting, wonderful, But they never really made me change much.
[Speaker 3] [758.41s] Here, for the first time, through the application and the simplicity, I felt I've made really changes in my life.
[Speaker 2] [766.49s] So you talked about Christianity, and you mentioned the fact that a lot of Christians are gonna, like, hear the word, reincarnation and, like, no.
[Speaker 2] [773.88s] No.
[Speaker 2] [774.12s] No.
[Speaker 2] [774.27s] That's not that's not Christian.
[Speaker 2] [776.43s] Explain to people why when that was removed from Christian teachings.
[Speaker 3] [782.14s] Well, anybody who's interested in this can see my video on Christ taught reincarnation that goes into great detail about Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [788.70s] Christ did speak reincarnation.
[Speaker 3] [790.46s] It was a common belief with many Jews at the time Christ mentioned Matthew Matthew and so on.
[Speaker 3] [795.91s] Several question, what do people say I am?
[Speaker 3] [798.00s] And says, you are born, different prophets, and so on.
[Speaker 3] [801.27s] There are several quotes in the Bible ref referring it to Christ spoke about reincarnation indirectly, but never so clearly.
[Speaker 3] [808.75s] And that was a profound part of the early Christian origin and so on, all the teachings which we have clearly mentioned that they talked about reincarnation.
[Speaker 3] [818.11s] But it was emperor Justinian in the fifth century who wanted the better control.
[Speaker 3] [823.11s] He considered himself as the ruler of the church.
[Speaker 3] [825.83s] It wasn't the pope, Bigelaris, at the time.
[Speaker 3] [827.99s] It was Justinian who thought he was the king and everything.
[Speaker 3] [831.90s] So he ordered to take reincarnation out because he wanted total control over the people.
[Speaker 3] [837.68s] The moment you take out reincarnation and say, the only way to God is through me, through the Catholic church, you can bind the people.
[Speaker 3] [846.16s] Yes.
[Speaker 3] [846.32s] And that was the idea, to bind people.
[Speaker 3] [848.57s] Because with a reincarnation makes you understand, I don't need an organization.
[Speaker 3] [853.28s] I basically have to work on myself, and I can free myself with with God and with Christ if you choose to.
[Speaker 3] [859.48s] So it was an important thing to control the masses.
[Speaker 3] [863.16s] And that was done in in the year 05/1955 on the December 8, when this was assigned as a law that the Catholic church could no longer speak about reincarnation.
[Speaker 3] [873.70s] And then they had to create all this nonsense.
[Speaker 3] [875.46s] This is, the, the sin or eternal damnation and all this stuff, which is not live in the in the Bible.
[Speaker 3] [881.14s] A lot of stuff which was created because now suddenly, they could no longer explain where do we come from, why we are here, and where we are going, why somebody is rich, why somebody is poor.
[Speaker 3] [891.57s] The only explanation they could give is, oh, it's a mystery of God.
[Speaker 3] [895.57s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [895.81s] And so everything changed.
[Speaker 3] [897.40s] And that's why I could never really believe the teaching of the church because this important element of reincarnation was taken out.
[Speaker 2] [905.49s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [905.88s] I I, you know, I learned this, about thirty years ago, I guess, at this point.
[Speaker 2] [911.17s] I was raised as a Christian and taught to believe the Bible was, you know, perfect, etcetera.
[Speaker 2] [915.76s] And I started doing some research, and I found out, for me, it was there's the idea of eternal damnation.
[Speaker 2] [920.96s] It just never made any sense to me.
[Speaker 2] [922.88s] So I started doing research in that, and I realized for the first five hundred years of the church, it's not what the church taught.
[Speaker 3] [928.75s] Right.
[Speaker 3] [929.55s] Exactly.
[Speaker 3] [930.27s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [931.55s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [931.72s] But I might ope eye opener was, you know, Edgar Casey, when I I was 20 and I read, and for the first time when we had reincarnation, suddenly everything made sense to me.
[Speaker 3] [941.76s] Suddenly understood why my neighbor was rich, why poor was sick.
[Speaker 3] [944.80s] And in moment, everything makes sense to me.
[Speaker 3] [947.68s] The moment I fully grasped and accepted the law of reincarnation, which Christ has taught and which was taken out.
[Speaker 3] [955.91s] So there are no incidences in life.
[Speaker 3] [958.00s] Everything what happens to us has a purpose.
[Speaker 3] [960.39s] Basically, we are on rewind.
[Speaker 3] [963.43s] Everything what we experienced in a way is something that we have sown in a previous lifetime.
[Speaker 3] [968.39s] And basically, we are reaping from moment to moment what we have once uploaded into the planet.
[Speaker 3] [973.22s] So when we now go into the streets and we meet somebody who upsets us, who cuts us off in a traffic, somebody gives us a phone call, which is very upsetting, etcetera.
[Speaker 3] [981.78s] These are no coincidences.
[Speaker 3] [983.96s] This is all little karmic, things which are coming back to us.
[Speaker 3] [988.36s] And now we have the opportunity to transform them into love, into kindness, to forgiveness, and moving on from it.
[Speaker 3] [997.20s] So everything that happens to us is exactly it doesn't mean that we don't have free will.
[Speaker 3] [1002.64s] The free will is how we respond to it.
[Speaker 3] [1005.84s] What comes to us, we have also through our free will, misuse of free will initiated.
[Speaker 3] [1011.70s] We have acted, spoken against the law of love, karma, coming back to us, not as a blow of faith, which God gave us, but we, ourself, have see sown the seed.
[Speaker 3] [1021.38s] And now it comes to fruition.
[Speaker 3] [1023.44s] And suddenly, I feel what I have done to someone else in the past.
[Speaker 3] [1027.20s] But now it's up to me to, again, use my free will.
[Speaker 3] [1030.16s] What do I do with this negative situation?
[Speaker 3] [1032.80s] Do I collapse?
[Speaker 3] [1033.84s] Do I cry?
[Speaker 3] [1034.80s] Do I well, it condemns, or do I just use the path of love?
[Speaker 3] [1040.19s] So it's all in our hand.
[Speaker 3] [1041.71s] We are no robots.
[Speaker 3] [1043.08s] We have total free will from moment to moment of how to respond to any situation life gives us or we give ourselves, basically.
[Speaker 2] [1051.62s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [1052.34s] And you mentioned you mentioned Christ a few times.
[Speaker 2] [1055.38s] And who I'm gonna ask the question that Jesus asked.
[Speaker 2] [1058.82s] Right?
[Speaker 2] [1059.06s] Who do you say Christ is?
[Speaker 3] [1061.62s] Well, Christ is, the Jesus was the the the the human form of the Christ energy who came here as we were called the son of God, Christ, and he incarnated here on planet Earth.
[Speaker 3] [1073.36s] His goal was his intention was not to be crucified.
[Speaker 3] [1076.55s] That was only came later.
[Speaker 3] [1078.95s] But he it was quite clear that the people at the time were not ready to take his lessons, and and there was so much negativity that he had to crucify.
[Speaker 3] [1087.89s] And he did not die for our sin.
[Speaker 3] [1089.89s] This is another thing what the churches invented.
[Speaker 3] [1092.85s] But he did give us this this Christ spark.
[Speaker 3] [1095.97s] Through his death, he gave us a spark in every soul in the lower pure replication spheres, which helps which we call the Christ spark.
[Speaker 3] [1104.28s] And anybody interested, you know, watch my video on the Christ spark, which is the spark which stops the chakras return revolving backwards, which means undoing undoing creation.
[Speaker 3] [1117.02s] We were so low fallen so low that if the Christ spark wouldn't have been given to all the souls, that would be eventually would be an undoing of creation.
[Speaker 3] [1130.26s] So all had to be stopped and before they reversed, and that was what Christ's work was.
[Speaker 3] [1136.41s] But still, he said, you still have to carry your burden.
[Speaker 3] [1139.96s] I help you.
[Speaker 3] [1141.00s] You can put your negativity into my light, and I will help you.
[Speaker 3] [1145.24s] And and I will burn it off, and I will change it from a negative to positive.
[Speaker 3] [1149.03s] But the step has to come from you.
[Speaker 3] [1150.94s] Not only believing in me, it doesn't help.
[Speaker 3] [1153.42s] You have to do the efforts.
[Speaker 3] [1154.79s] You have to forgive someone and ask for forgiveness.
[Speaker 3] [1157.83s] That is your step to do.
[Speaker 3] [1159.42s] And when you do this, I will do the rest.
[Speaker 3] [1162.11s] I will let you have I will clear as much as I can from your soul burden.
[Speaker 3] [1166.27s] But the step is up to us.
[Speaker 3] [1168.83s] Playing only believing in Christ does not bring us anything closer, does not help us to undo our karma.
[Speaker 2] [1175.57s] Interesting.
[Speaker 2] [1176.04s] So are you are you familiar with Swedenborg?
[Speaker 2] [1178.44s] Yes.
[Speaker 2] [1179.16s] Okay.
[Speaker 2] [1179.48s] So what you just said reminded me a lot of what Swedenborg talked about when when when Jesus came that we were at such a low point where, like, the hells were out of balance with heaven and that that Jesus came to kind of reverse that whole thing.
[Speaker 2] [1193.35s] So is that something you're familiar with?
[Speaker 3] [1195.75s] In in that detail, not.
[Speaker 3] [1197.11s] No.
[Speaker 3] [1197.27s] I've read a lot of Sweden book.
[Speaker 3] [1199.03s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1199.35s] But, yeah, this is basically, yeah, I just have it right on my desk.
[Speaker 3] [1205.62s] Heaven and health.
[Speaker 3] [1206.89s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [1207.30s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [1208.10s] And, yeah, that's that's the fact that we have, but very simply speaking, we were all in the absolute reality, and the Bible then speaks of the fall of angels.
[Speaker 3] [1219.54s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1219.78s] There's certain number of of highly evolved perfect spirit beings decided to make their own creation.
[Speaker 3] [1226.49s] And that's where karma came in.
[Speaker 3] [1228.17s] We make their own ego.
[Speaker 3] [1229.45s] Ego came in, became negativity, negativity, negativity.
[Speaker 3] [1232.88s] It became to the point of a dissolution of creation.
[Speaker 3] [1235.43s] I don't know how in what words.
[Speaker 3] [1237.12s] Freudenborg uses, but yes.
[Speaker 3] [1238.88s] And Christ was the one who stopped it.
[Speaker 2] [1241.12s] Okay.
[Speaker 3] [1241.52s] That's why he's so very, very important and misunderstood, and the churches have totally turned this, around to just only believe in Christ and you are saved.
[Speaker 3] [1250.12s] But, yes, there is it's interesting that you mentioned that too.
[Speaker 3] [1252.84s] Yes.
[Speaker 3] [1253.80s] I'm just making a a a video on the on the afterlife of children, and I'm using many books.
[Speaker 3] [1259.38s] And also Swedenborg spoke a lot about the children's fears.
[Speaker 2] [1262.74s] Oh, okay.
[Speaker 3] [1263.46s] The afterlife.
[Speaker 3] [1264.03s] And that's why I'm just having this book here lying there.
[Speaker 3] [1266.74s] Coincident.
[Speaker 3] [1268.03s] Yes.
[Speaker 2] [1268.90s] Let's talk about these different spheres or or realms.
[Speaker 2] [1272.03s] I did watch one of your videos when you talked about, like, the ultimate, seven d realm, I think, that we all come from.
[Speaker 3] [1279.23s] Yes.
[Speaker 2] [1279.55s] And and you talk about what we call the fall, which was, I guess, the exercise of free will to say we're gonna go do our own thing.
[Speaker 2] [1286.64s] So what's your what's your interpretation of of the fall, for example?
[Speaker 3] [1290.33s] Well, you said it already in a few words.
[Speaker 3] [1293.52s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [1293.85s] There was there were, well, we have got the seven dimensional reality is very difficult for us to grasp.
[Speaker 3] [1300.88s] So we speak symbolic things like the the demonic energies came and wanted to have their own kind of, heaven, create their own heaven.
[Speaker 3] [1309.28s] And let's just leave it like this.
[Speaker 3] [1311.20s] Gabriel explains it in great detail of how why it happened.
[Speaker 3] [1314.52s] But there was a soul in the there was a a spirit beings who wanted to have their own kind of kingdom, and they left.
[Speaker 3] [1321.15s] And they left simply by no longer being loving and no longer being of service because the highest form of love is service.
[Speaker 2] [1328.43s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1328.91s] And they wanted just their own thing, their own thing.
[Speaker 3] [1331.15s] And as they removed themselves more and more, they were not aware of it, but their country become more and more selfish, selfish, selfish.
[Speaker 3] [1337.39s] And they started to fight with each other.
[Speaker 3] [1338.91s] And the more they fought with each other, the more they've moved themselves from the absolute reality from the highest vibration.
[Speaker 3] [1345.43s] Because we have to understand, it is all only energy and vibration.
[Speaker 3] [1349.76s] There is no real thing anywhere.
[Speaker 3] [1351.28s] Nothing is here.
[Speaker 3] [1351.91s] It's only vibration.
[Speaker 3] [1353.03s] Even God, even the absolute reality, even this glass of water, it's all vibration, energy.
[Speaker 3] [1358.83s] There's no real substance to it.
[Speaker 3] [1361.39s] And you and I are also nothing but vibration.
[Speaker 3] [1363.95s] We are speaking about changes of vibration frequency.
[Speaker 3] [1368.64s] And that is basically what it is.
[Speaker 3] [1370.48s] We have removed of ourselves from the highest vibration, which is selfless love, unconditional, unlimited, all inclusive.
[Speaker 3] [1376.57s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 2] [1376.81s] And
[Speaker 3] [1376.97s] we have become selfish love, and that caused a crystallization to the point of matter where we are now living in.
[Speaker 3] [1384.30s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1384.62s] That's in a nutshell.
[Speaker 3] [1385.98s] And there are many videos I've explained it in greater detail.
[Speaker 3] [1389.58s] When you when I draw it out, it becomes much, much clearer than when I use my my limited English.
[Speaker 2] [1395.98s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [1396.22s] The illustrations are beautiful.
[Speaker 2] [1397.50s] They're they're they're actually they are very helpful.
[Speaker 2] [1399.91s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [1400.15s] You know, it's interesting this idea of of the fall, because I have a a good friend who's who's Jewish, and we discussed this many years ago.
[Speaker 2] [1409.28s] And he was saying, well, you know, the the myth of Adam and Eve, you know, leaving the garden, we talk about that, was really like man just not not so much a rejection of God, but more like like when your child leaves the house.
[Speaker 2] [1424.03s] We're just gonna go out and do our own thing.
[Speaker 2] [1426.35s] So is the fall is it a negative thing, as it's been portrayed in some traditions, or is it more of a just going out on your own?
[Speaker 3] [1436.41s] Well, I think what he is referring to is what a lot of new age teaching says that we are incarnating here to planet Earth to experience suffering and pain so that we grow as a soul.
[Speaker 3] [1447.35s] I'm sure you hear that.
[Speaker 3] [1449.51s] That is not what what Christ said here.
[Speaker 3] [1451.67s] No.
[Speaker 3] [1451.83s] It says, because, that basically means, if you follow that thought pattern, that we are coming from a source, mean by k called God who is not perfect, who has created children, imperfect children, who now through trial and error have slowly and through a lot of pain and torture and war and suffering and hunger become a more better, better soul.
[Speaker 3] [1473.44s] That is a lot of new age teaching, and that is not what I can grasp, understand because that is not love.
[Speaker 3] [1480.88s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1481.28s] A loving father would not do that.
[Speaker 3] [1482.88s] And if my God is perfect, he can only create perfect children.
[Speaker 3] [1488.02s] And in my video all about animals, we see how we evolve from the mineral kingdom, etcetera, to the perfect spirit being.
[Speaker 3] [1496.41s] We all have been, or in our essence, are perfect spirit beings.
[Speaker 3] [1502.05s] We do not have to do any suffering like a lot of these teachings are.
[Speaker 3] [1505.97s] And I think what's your friend refers to is that God wants to experience himself because it's another new age teaching because, he does he is not he is everything, but he isn't aware of how powerful and how wonderful he is.
[Speaker 3] [1519.63s] And therefore, he creates all these difficult situation to surprise himself.
[Speaker 3] [1524.04s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 2] [1524.43s] I
[Speaker 3] [1524.60s] think that is not the all knowing God I'm referring to.
[Speaker 3] [1528.60s] And I'm I I know.
[Speaker 3] [1529.80s] So So that is as teachings which comes from the four region.
[Speaker 3] [1534.41s] My understanding is we are perfect being through our own self will.
[Speaker 3] [1538.01s] We have removed ourselves from the perfection, and all we have to do now is to become perfect again.
[Speaker 3] [1543.45s] We are inwardly already perfect, but now we have to undo all this garbage.
[Speaker 3] [1549.11s] None of us has to suffer, has to go to wars and pain so that God can explore his magnificence.
[Speaker 3] [1556.46s] That, I think, is does not work for me, and that's not what Christ taught either.
[Speaker 3] [1561.72s] No.
[Speaker 3] [1562.04s] God doesn't want us to suffer.
[Speaker 3] [1563.40s] There is no suffering in the absolute reality.
[Speaker 3] [1565.80s] There is no duality.
[Speaker 3] [1566.84s] There are no contrast in the absolute reality.
[Speaker 3] [1569.24s] There is not even past and future.
[Speaker 3] [1571.08s] There's only the permanent now, which is not easy for us to grasp, but that's where it is.
[Speaker 3] [1575.84s] And that is only beauty.
[Speaker 3] [1577.28s] Now people say, well, I maybe got bored, and that's why they left the spiritual reality.
[Speaker 3] [1582.63s] They think, I don't think so.
[Speaker 3] [1584.39s] Because people forget when you are highest loving, your main goal will be service.
[Speaker 3] [1592.85s] And when you feel and give service like you do it with with with your work right now, that is so rewarding.
[Speaker 3] [1600.85s] It is so wonderful.
[Speaker 3] [1602.37s] You wouldn't want to leave this behind.
[Speaker 3] [1605.22s] Being of service is, gives, in itself is the reward of being alive.
[Speaker 3] [1610.82s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1611.22s] So I think that is the answer that the highest form of love is not sitting there strumming your harp on a cloud.
[Speaker 3] [1617.38s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [1617.86s] No, it is really, you help the other, the mineral kingdom, the plant kingdom, and and so on.
[Speaker 3] [1623.14s] And the constant expansion of creation because they're continuously expanding and morphing itself into wonderful new elements of of new stars and planets and universes.
[Speaker 3] [1634.10s] And the spirit beings, the perfect spirit beings are all involved in this continuous expansion of joy, of ecstasy.
[Speaker 3] [1641.84s] This is where you come from.
[Speaker 3] [1642.95s] This is where I come from.
[Speaker 3] [1644.08s] And this is where everybody will eventually go back to.
[Speaker 3] [1647.16s] The choice when we want to be there is with everyone individually.
[Speaker 3] [1651.48s] Do I want to do it now, or do I want to hang around here and follow my ego, my my biases, and my pleasures?
[Speaker 2] [1659.29s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [1659.68s] Great great great answer.
[Speaker 2] [1661.05s] So, so here we are.
[Speaker 2] [1662.88s] We're we're on Earth, and we're we're in this in the muck, I would say.
[Speaker 2] [1667.53s] We're in these these lower realms.
[Speaker 2] [1669.68s] How do we find our ways our way back?
[Speaker 2] [1671.66s] Is it something do we have to go through thousands of lifetimes?
[Speaker 2] [1676.38s] Or how do we get back?
[Speaker 3] [1678.78s] No.
[Speaker 3] [1679.10s] Christ is very distinct.
[Speaker 3] [1680.30s] Do not re do not reincarnate.
[Speaker 3] [1682.46s] He said that, I mean, if you have to, if you want to, fine.
[Speaker 3] [1685.26s] But it's not the purpose is continuous reincarnation.
[Speaker 3] [1688.22s] What we have done over thousands of years, some people have been here thousand times, that is not the will of divinity.
[Speaker 3] [1694.86s] Because earth is new only in school.
[Speaker 3] [1697.40s] It's like you want to go to college again and again and again.
[Speaker 3] [1700.60s] Doesn't make sense.
[Speaker 3] [1702.20s] And this is college.
[Speaker 3] [1703.72s] This is a very unique and intense, amazing school and college.
[Speaker 3] [1707.24s] So you come here, you do what you have to do, and then you move on to the higher spheres.
[Speaker 3] [1711.89s] Now many people don't use the time here, and some even get so even more involved in negativity and and the and the temptations of this world that that's made come more difficult for them.
[Speaker 3] [1722.45s] But it's not the goal for us to incarnate over and over again.
[Speaker 3] [1726.30s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1726.54s] So he makes it very, very clear to us to make sure that this can be your last lifetime and Christ on God is here to help you to find out from moment to moment.
[Speaker 3] [1736.30s] Is your sensing, feeling, speaking, acting really in line and in line with what?
[Speaker 3] [1743.46s] What we have been given for thousand, the 10 commandments and the sermon on the mount, which includes the golden rule.
[Speaker 3] [1749.70s] This is all about the blue box say.
[Speaker 3] [1751.38s] Nothing else.
[Speaker 3] [1752.10s] There's no big secret in it.
[Speaker 3] [1753.94s] God is, as I said, ingenious simplicity.
[Speaker 3] [1756.50s] The 10 commandments, everybody knows more or less.
[Speaker 3] [1759.78s] The sermon on the mount, some have got an idea, but at least help those who are less fortunate, etcetera, and forgiveness, very important, and the golden rule.
[Speaker 3] [1767.83s] So it is nothing difficult.
[Speaker 3] [1770.22s] It's nothing, unknown.
[Speaker 3] [1771.90s] We know the laws.
[Speaker 3] [1772.79s] It's maybe difficult to follow them when our ego is so strong in the opposite direction.
[Speaker 2] [1779.98s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [1780.77s] So I've heard people say that it's really interesting, like, when when we die, like, don't go toward the light because that that's a trap.
[Speaker 2] [1789.65s] That's a that's a reincarnation trap.
[Speaker 2] [1791.33s] What are your thoughts about, like you said, choosing not to reincarnate?
[Speaker 2] [1795.55s] Is it just a choice that we get to make, or how does that work?
[Speaker 3] [1800.03s] Well, whenever we die, there then we will be guided by through our own vibration to the spheres we have to be.
[Speaker 3] [1808.51s] Now I people, I I always say, look.
[Speaker 3] [1811.52s] When people says, oh, I heard about now don't go to right into the light.
[Speaker 3] [1814.80s] You could reincarnate.
[Speaker 3] [1815.76s] You get trapped.
[Speaker 3] [1816.88s] I always say to one of the things, look at the person in the video or where you got it.
[Speaker 3] [1821.28s] It's you YouTube information.
[Speaker 3] [1823.51s] Look at the persons into their eyes, and would you trust that person with your soul or with your money, and would you follow the advice?
[Speaker 3] [1831.66s] Because that is not the highest advice.
[Speaker 3] [1833.90s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1834.55s] Light is there.
[Speaker 3] [1835.74s] Trust your own thing.
[Speaker 3] [1836.87s] People are always projecting what they fear.
[Speaker 3] [1840.36s] It's the fear of the person who brings out this information.
[Speaker 2] [1843.48s] Right.
[Speaker 3] [1844.04s] If you have a close connection to divinity, to Christ, to God, whatever you may name, or even have it to your guardian spirit, if that helps you, then trust that more so than some kind YouTuber who has heard it and who wants to get higher rating by spreading more fear.
[Speaker 3] [1861.20s] I do not see any danger in this not going into the light.
[Speaker 3] [1864.96s] I think that is the personal fear of people who have shared it.
[Speaker 3] [1869.32s] And, also, when before we incarnate, nobody is here against their own free will.
[Speaker 3] [1876.60s] We are shown usually in the pre birth process, and I have a video on that one, how our future life will be.
[Speaker 3] [1884.30s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [1884.62s] So all the difficulties, what will add the ups as well as the positive, the people we will meet, some of the other souls may reincarnate with us together.
[Speaker 3] [1892.30s] So we will be shown more or less, not to the detail, but what what are the possibilities in this lifetime.
[Speaker 3] [1899.11s] And we all agree to it.
[Speaker 3] [1901.43s] Nobody is here against their own consent.
[Speaker 3] [1903.99s] So that isn't but we can skip it.
[Speaker 3] [1906.71s] There are some souls, and this is absolutely true.
[Speaker 3] [1908.95s] It has nothing to do with the white light.
[Speaker 3] [1910.84s] But there are some souls who are so in love with this worldly life.
[Speaker 3] [1914.52s] They've got, they are famous, they are rich, they've got pleasure.
[Speaker 3] [1917.39s] They can't wait to continue that life.
[Speaker 3] [1919.39s] And they skip about this whole spiritual stuff.
[Speaker 3] [1922.12s] The next chance they see another birth somewhere, they force themselves to incarnate again.
[Speaker 3] [1927.50s] That is possible.
[Speaker 3] [1928.78s] There are quite many, souls which incarnate as well very fast, and they usually are landing up in a very sad situation.
[Speaker 3] [1937.18s] So follow your inner guidance when you are moving on into the higher spheres.
[Speaker 3] [1943.55s] Connect with divinity, with Christ if you can, with God, with the guardian spirit.
[Speaker 3] [1948.18s] Watch out for those light beings that will guide you and let them follow you.
[Speaker 3] [1951.38s] But don't be afraid about the white light.
[Speaker 2] [1954.48s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [1954.80s] Thank you for that.
[Speaker 2] [1956.16s] Yeah, it's, it's very interesting that some of the crazy teachings that are that are out there, and I wanted to to just basically
[Speaker 3] [1961.60s] the teacher.
[Speaker 3] [1962.08s] Look at the teacher, then you find and then ask your soul, do I trust that person?
[Speaker 3] [1967.12s] That's all I'm
[Speaker 2] [1968.21s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [1968.38s] I think it's a really good it's really good advice.
[Speaker 2] [1970.70s] So people that listen to my podcast, a lot of people are here because they're going through they're going through grief.
[Speaker 3] [1977.34s] You know,
[Speaker 2] [1977.58s] they're going through they've lost a loved one.
[Speaker 2] [1979.34s] They're like and and that just brings up all the questions we're talking about.
[Speaker 2] [1983.66s] Why am I here?
[Speaker 2] [1984.62s] Where did they go?
[Speaker 2] [1985.66s] Etcetera.
[Speaker 2] [1986.54s] What what would you say to someone that's that's here that's in grief?
[Speaker 2] [1989.74s] How can how can this be of help to them?
[Speaker 3] [1993.50s] You are the counselor.
[Speaker 3] [1994.46s] You know, best to find the right per backwards for that.
[Speaker 3] [1997.33s] I have never not been in that situation.
[Speaker 3] [1999.48s] It's very difficult.
[Speaker 3] [2000.52s] My what my word comes from more from my understanding than from having gone through it myself like you have gone through it.
[Speaker 3] [2006.92s] So Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [2007.72s] I'm happy to share that what I know and understand, and hopefully, it may be of work for somebody.
[Speaker 3] [2013.27s] But I believe that everybody die dies right on time, which means whether you needed three weeks, three six years, sixty years, a hundred and ten years.
[Speaker 3] [2023.03s] Everybody knows before we incarnate when we will die.
[Speaker 3] [2026.90s] This can be a very big surprise for the surviving family.
[Speaker 3] [2030.18s] In many cases, they are not they they don't know that a certain person is is dying much earlier than they expected.
[Speaker 3] [2036.51s] And, of course, that causes a major disappointment, major pain and suffering and grieving and mourning because it it is against what we expected.
[Speaker 3] [2046.93s] We make do remind us that all our pain and our suffering is basically unfulfilled expectations.
[Speaker 3] [2055.24s] If we really look at this, we had an expectation that the person we are with, my partner, my child, should be there all the time, and suddenly, it's no longer there.
[Speaker 3] [2064.84s] We expected that the job I had is always done.
[Speaker 3] [2067.72s] Suddenly, I'm given notice.
[Speaker 3] [2068.93s] Suddenly, I'm getting sick.
[Speaker 3] [2070.57s] Whenever we upset, we are basically dealing with unfulfilled expectations.
[Speaker 3] [2075.93s] And there was a wonderful book in the sixties came out.
[Speaker 3] [2078.33s] It's called, Handbook for Happiness by Ken Keyes.
[Speaker 3] [2081.85s] And he says, if you can change the expectation over to preference, and the sting is taken out of it.
[Speaker 3] [2088.78s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [2089.03s] If we can say, I would have preferred that my son would have still be alive.
[Speaker 3] [2093.26s] I would have preferred my husband by my side.
[Speaker 3] [2096.30s] The whole energy shifts in us when we really understand that.
[Speaker 3] [2101.19s] And, of course, it's very difficult to accept that.
[Speaker 3] [2103.35s] And there is this grief quite naturally about a loss.
[Speaker 3] [2106.07s] A person is gone.
[Speaker 3] [2107.83s] We have to adjust to that.
[Speaker 3] [2109.19s] That is naturally.
[Speaker 3] [2110.63s] But the morning is as something different because the morning comes often from our head.
[Speaker 3] [2116.01s] This is also often related to the life that we imagine we could have had stood together.
[Speaker 3] [2122.74s] The life we should have had together.
[Speaker 3] [2125.30s] We imagined where the personal soul is, where I will be.
[Speaker 3] [2128.82s] So morning is something different.
[Speaker 3] [2131.45s] And mourning works in our head.
[Speaker 3] [2133.53s] And there, we may want to eventually come to the conclusion that all mourning is basically about ourselves.
[Speaker 3] [2141.69s] It's all about us because we don't know where the where the soul that has gone is.
[Speaker 3] [2148.14s] Most likely in a thousand time better place.
[Speaker 3] [2150.39s] Most of you healthy, young, vital, alive.
[Speaker 3] [2154.07s] But we are thinking about ourselves.
[Speaker 3] [2155.82s] We have been left behind.
[Speaker 3] [2157.87s] And Christ and, speaks over and over again.
[Speaker 3] [2160.19s] Do not mourn.
[Speaker 3] [2160.99s] Do not mourn if you can, because if you would know how much you hold on to that soul, that soul cannot move on because they feel the suffering of the morning person.
[Speaker 3] [2172.28s] They feel it deeply, and they want to says, look, I'm healthy.
[Speaker 3] [2176.05s] I'm fine.
[Speaker 3] [2176.53s] I'm in the spiritual world.
[Speaker 3] [2177.72s] I don't have a body, but look, I can dance.
[Speaker 3] [2179.72s] I can move, etcetera.
[Speaker 3] [2180.84s] I'm young again.
[Speaker 3] [2182.13s] And you are standing here at my grave, and you're mourning and mourning.
[Speaker 3] [2185.59s] You're feeling sorry for yourself.
[Speaker 3] [2186.95s] I understand that, but I can't really move happily on into my future path because I have always to think about you who I left behind and you are suffering so much.
[Speaker 3] [2197.59s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [2197.91s] I have a wonderful letter on my website, lifeexplained.com, an email, which a woman sent me, from England.
[Speaker 3] [2205.78s] And she said, she was very close to her father.
[Speaker 3] [2209.14s] And her father, when when he her father died, she had, she communicated with them all the time.
[Speaker 3] [2216.51s] So whenever she wanted to do something, buy a new dress, go out, she always closed her eyes, and she could communicate.
[Speaker 3] [2222.51s] And they spoke with each other.
[Speaker 3] [2224.27s] So one day, the father said to her, why don't you go to the computer and you type in and she says, it says, now go to YouTube and type in the name Hans Wilhelm.
[Speaker 3] [2235.24s] And she has, of course, never heard of him.
[Speaker 3] [2236.93s] And she thought it was an opera singer because her father loved opera.
[Speaker 3] [2241.25s] So typed in Amsterdam, and immediately, my video on mourning and grieving comes up.
[Speaker 2] [2245.81s] Oh, wow.
[Speaker 3] [2246.53s] And she looked at that, and that was his way of saying, let me go.
[Speaker 3] [2251.73s] Let me go.
[Speaker 3] [2252.45s] I have to do my own life.
[Speaker 3] [2254.66s] And that, I think, is in a very, very important, point.
[Speaker 3] [2257.70s] And, of course, if something happens, right now, if somebody just suddenly, for the first time, faces grieving and and mourning, it's difficult to hear.
[Speaker 3] [2268.44s] But it is a goal to have to let go, to understand that this morning is really about ourselves.
[Speaker 3] [2274.76s] So we want to be and something else which, my dear friend and and and, doctor Kubler Ross said, the excessive mourning is very often nothing but undeclared love.
[Speaker 3] [2286.80s] The person who excessively mourns is somebody who fears he or she has not said I love you to the person who has died, has not verbalized it.
[Speaker 3] [2297.46s] It's very important point to realize that.
[Speaker 3] [2300.18s] And, and and I checked it.
[Speaker 3] [2302.34s] I made it my my first book, I will always love you, is based on her teachings.
[Speaker 3] [2305.62s] It was a big seller.
[Speaker 3] [2307.14s] And it still is.
[Speaker 3] [2308.42s] And it is the important message to say, I love you.
[Speaker 3] [2312.59s] Verbally say it.
[Speaker 3] [2313.39s] And this to tell you another little story.
[Speaker 3] [2315.86s] As a German, of course, we do not say I love you to ever to ever because these words are not used in our language.
[Speaker 3] [2322.26s] We love everything in America.
[Speaker 3] [2323.63s] We love our ice cream.
[Speaker 3] [2324.66s] I love the computer.
[Speaker 3] [2325.39s] I love you.
[Speaker 3] [2326.26s] We say that either, but we could never do this in Germany.
[Speaker 3] [2329.11s] So when I was doing this my first, book on this subject, I will always love you, I realized that I never said that to my father and to my parents.
[Speaker 3] [2338.95s] So at the time, it was before the Internet.
[Speaker 3] [2341.19s] So I have to do this.
[Speaker 3] [2343.13s] Otherwise, I can't send out the book, tell other body what to do, and I haven't.
[Speaker 3] [2346.89s] So I wrote a long letter.
[Speaker 3] [2348.24s] And somewhere in there with lots of work and thinking, I worked it in telling them I love you.
[Speaker 3] [2353.61s] Sort of very smart.
[Speaker 3] [2355.46s] At least I did it.
[Speaker 3] [2356.50s] So I send it off, and then two or three weeks later, I got a reply back from them.
[Speaker 3] [2359.82s] It says, thank you so much for your, letter.
[Speaker 3] [2361.86s] Very interesting, but we were not quite sure what you were after.
[Speaker 3] [2368.10s] But that is the letter.
[Speaker 3] [2369.14s] I have said it.
[Speaker 3] [2370.24s] So when my parents died, I've said it, and that was all which matters.
[Speaker 3] [2374.01s] So I think that is another key element to use our time together to verbalize love.
[Speaker 3] [2379.61s] I love you.
[Speaker 3] [2380.97s] And realize that the other person is not with is not our possession, whether it's our life partner, our spouse, our child.
[Speaker 3] [2388.77s] There is this wonderful of course, you are familiar with this.
[Speaker 3] [2392.37s] Kaleh Gibran from the prophet.
[Speaker 3] [2395.41s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [2396.02s] And the woman who held a babe against her bosom said, speak to us of children.
[Speaker 3] [2401.14s] And he said, your children are not your children.
[Speaker 3] [2404.18s] They are the sons and daughters of life's longing for itself.
[Speaker 3] [2407.61s] They come through you, but not from you.
[Speaker 3] [2410.43s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [2410.59s] And all they are with you, they yet don't belong to you.
[Speaker 3] [2413.87s] These are very hard words.
[Speaker 3] [2414.99s] Of course, it continues that one.
[Speaker 3] [2416.75s] But there is truth in this.
[Speaker 3] [2418.27s] And when we can make this separation and understand and respect the other swords, message that's and also when we learn that the love which we suddenly can't give to that person anymore, we now can give to a new world, to a new universe.
[Speaker 3] [2433.66s] So this is what you have done by becoming a soul a a grief counselor.
[Speaker 3] [2438.82s] You now have used the love, and now you share it with lots of other people and your energy.
[Speaker 3] [2444.74s] This is a typical positive development of something you could still sit on your couch and feel sorry for yourself, but you have now used that energy and now share it with other people.
[Speaker 3] [2454.61s] And I think that is another goal which one wants to consider.
[Speaker 3] [2458.05s] Where can I now share my love, which is no longer possible to share with the person here and next to me, to maybe to other people in a different way when we I focus it to someone else?
[Speaker 2] [2470.56s] Well, it's interesting you said you didn't have a lot to say on that.
[Speaker 2] [2473.28s] I'm sitting here smiling.
[Speaker 2] [2474.40s] That was a fantastic answer.
[Speaker 2] [2476.72s] You you said a lot of very, very, big big things there, that that help people.
[Speaker 2] [2484.69s] I think it help people in grief.
[Speaker 2] [2486.05s] One of the things we always ask there's several things so many things you said.
[Speaker 2] [2490.05s] You know, it's not fair.
[Speaker 2] [2491.89s] I expected more time with them, whether it was in my case, my daughter was 15 when she passed, or I have a friend that just lost her husband suddenly.
[Speaker 2] [2499.17s] He was 59.
[Speaker 2] [2500.53s] You know, what whatever that that age is, we always feel like it's that unfulfilled expectations you talked about.
[Speaker 2] [2506.61s] When we can really understand that every soul has its own life path.
[Speaker 2] [2511.26s] It's not ours.
[Speaker 2] [2512.30s] They don't belong to us.
[Speaker 2] [2513.57s] Whether it's our child, our spouse, our parents, whatever, they don't belong to us.
[Speaker 2] [2517.89s] They all have their right life path.
[Speaker 2] [2519.57s] It may be five minutes.
[Speaker 2] [2521.01s] It may be five years.
[Speaker 2] [2522.53s] It may be a hundred years.
[Speaker 2] [2525.26s] So that's a very big thing.
[Speaker 2] [2526.74s] The other thing that you said I really I really appreciate is I tell people there are basically two components of grief.
[Speaker 2] [2533.22s] We grieve for what we have lost, and we grieve for what will be perceived the other person has lost.
[Speaker 2] [2538.68s] And I'm like, let go of the grief for what you think they lost.
[Speaker 2] [2542.28s] When my daughter passed at 15, her existence did not end.
[Speaker 2] [2546.99s] She she didn't she's not missing out on going to prom.
[Speaker 2] [2549.80s] She's not missing out on getting married.
[Speaker 2] [2551.47s] She's not missing out on all the things of this earth.
[Speaker 2] [2554.53s] She's living a a better existence.
[Speaker 2] [2557.09s] So when we understand that the concepts you're talking about, we can let go of that part of grief.
[Speaker 2] [2562.61s] We don't have to grieve for the person that we've lost.
[Speaker 2] [2566.05s] We still grieve for ourselves.
[Speaker 2] [2567.80s] The the the grief is for ourselves.
[Speaker 2] [2570.28s] It's for that that expectation that we had.
[Speaker 2] [2575.24s] And understand again that our that our children I forgot where that came from, but I say that all the time, which you just read that passage.
[Speaker 2] [2582.54s] Our children don't come from us.
[Speaker 2] [2584.70s] They come through us.
[Speaker 2] [2586.94s] They they're not our possessions.
[Speaker 2] [2589.10s] So I think those those things can be very helpful to someone in grief.
[Speaker 2] [2594.51s] Doesn't take all the pain away right away.
[Speaker 2] [2596.84s] It's a it's a it's taken me ten years to get to the understanding that I just, you know, explained to you.
[Speaker 2] [2602.03s] But I think your words are very, very helpful.
[Speaker 3] [2605.23s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [2605.64s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [2605.88s] No.
[Speaker 3] [2606.11s] I agree.
[Speaker 3] [2606.68s] And there's something else Christ, spoke very clearly about it, but particularly when a young person dies and so on.
[Speaker 3] [2613.10s] And they only he said, yeah, there some souls only have to incarnate for very small little soul burden, and then they're done.
[Speaker 3] [2620.94s] College is over for them, so they move on.
[Speaker 3] [2623.42s] And remember, if they would stay on in this lifetime like you were probably would like to, they could, in this lifetime, find new ways of burdening themselves in this future life.
[Speaker 3] [2637.05s] They can't go drugs, whatever it is.
[Speaker 3] [2638.96s] This is all taking away from them.
[Speaker 3] [2640.56s] They no longer have the the, how should the temptation of the earth pulling them back.
[Speaker 3] [2646.32s] They are freed from them temptation.
[Speaker 3] [2648.40s] So they are actually in a way better off than you and I because we can continuously we are still tempted with all this kind of stuff.
[Speaker 3] [2655.49s] So it is a blessing for the soul as well to no longer be in this world because this world is not easy.
[Speaker 3] [2662.38s] Of course, you think of all the wonderful thing like graduation and things like this and prom and so on.
[Speaker 3] [2667.77s] But life is not graduation and prom.
[Speaker 3] [2669.77s] For the majority of people, life on Earth is very, very difficult.
[Speaker 3] [2674.01s] We're living here in a relatively pleasant environment here in America, but the rest of the world has got a lot of difficult, lives to go.
[Speaker 3] [2682.88s] And life is very, very tough.
[Speaker 3] [2684.47s] So and some people, many souls are better off not having to go through all this pain.
[Speaker 3] [2691.19s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [2691.43s] So when it dies early, it if we really see it as a blessing because in the absolute reality, on the higher spheres, all these things, these these heavy things are not there to that degree.
[Speaker 2] [2702.03s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [2702.51s] That is that is an excellent point.
[Speaker 2] [2704.11s] Another thing I try to point out to people, there's a there's a movie called The Butterfly Effect.
[Speaker 2] [2708.27s] It was made many years ago.
[Speaker 2] [2710.35s] And in that movie, something bad happens, something this guy doesn't want to happen.
[Speaker 2] [2716.13s] And he he finds that he can through journaling, he can go back and change the past.
[Speaker 2] [2720.53s] So he says, okay.
[Speaker 2] [2721.48s] I didn't want this person to die, so I'm gonna go change it.
[Speaker 2] [2724.28s] But every time he changes it, some unintended effect comes up, and it ends up being worse.
[Speaker 2] [2729.76s] And so I tell people, when our loved one passes at, like, my daughter at the age of 15, I have this this vision of her life from then till 85 being perfect.
[Speaker 2] [2740.24s] This is the way it would have played out.
[Speaker 2] [2742.00s] But my daughter had terrible rheumatoid arthritis, which was was under control, but I don't know how that might have affected her.
[Speaker 2] [2750.05s] I don't know if she would have gotten caught up in in drugs.
[Speaker 2] [2752.86s] You know?
[Speaker 2] [2753.57s] We don't know what that person's life would be.
[Speaker 2] [2755.97s] So as you said, they're spared the the difficulties of this earth.
[Speaker 2] [2762.09s] This earth is it's really wild.
[Speaker 2] [2764.25s] It's it's so beautiful, and there's so many blessings, but there's also so much pain and suffering.
[Speaker 2] [2770.49s] So to to tell somebody, you know, I I I people will say, well, would you bring your daughter back if you could?
[Speaker 2] [2777.64s] No.
[Speaker 2] [2777.89s] I wouldn't bring her back, you know, because it I wouldn't do that to her.
[Speaker 3] [2782.20s] So I see.
[Speaker 3] [2782.68s] Well, that is that's where the growth comes from.
[Speaker 3] [2785.16s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [2785.40s] When you reach that point, that is true.
[Speaker 3] [2788.10s] I also remember very interested in one of these, spiritual teachings, teach.
[Speaker 3] [2792.34s] I don't know who it was.
[Speaker 3] [2793.22s] He says, alright.
[Speaker 3] [2794.26s] You think that person didn't die and should live longer and so on.
[Speaker 3] [2797.22s] Alright.
[Speaker 3] [2797.46s] I want you now to look at the person next to you who is a stranger and look at them and just tell them exactly what in your mind, where or to what age should they die?
[Speaker 3] [2807.83s] Think about 85.
[Speaker 3] [2809.43s] We suddenly realize, we can't do this.
[Speaker 3] [2812.07s] Right.
[Speaker 3] [2812.31s] We can't go to someone else's.
[Speaker 3] [2813.66s] You should die at 100 and 10 or 55, etcetera.
[Speaker 3] [2816.72s] So why are you doing this to your family members?
[Speaker 3] [2819.52s] And we can't do this.
[Speaker 3] [2820.80s] This is not for us.
[Speaker 3] [2822.00s] It is totally in the hands of divinity and the soul itself.
[Speaker 3] [2825.28s] They have made that agreement prior birth that they will only live that number of moments here on planet Earth.
[Speaker 3] [2832.16s] Because it's a college.
[Speaker 3] [2833.66s] This is not our home.
[Speaker 3] [2834.93s] And in college, there are some great times, some fun times.
[Speaker 3] [2838.30s] But usually, it's the good college, the Ivy Leagues, are it's hard studying.
[Speaker 2] [2843.18s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [2843.74s] My my college was hard.
[Speaker 2] [2845.13s] My degree is in chemical engineering, and I tell people I would not I would never go back and do that again.
[Speaker 2] [2850.33s] Yep.
[Speaker 2] [2850.57s] So, yeah, it's it's we remember the good times.
[Speaker 2] [2853.05s] I remember the football games, but we don't remember the the final of exams.
[Speaker 3] [2857.53s] Exactly.
[Speaker 3] [2858.33s] Exactly.
[Speaker 3] [2858.97s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [2860.76s] So I wanted to ask you about, suicide.
[Speaker 2] [2864.43s] You know, it's something that a lot of us struggle with.
[Speaker 2] [2867.55s] You know?
[Speaker 2] [2868.03s] We've we've lost a loved one to suicide.
[Speaker 2] [2870.43s] We think there's maybe punishment for someone who takes their life.
[Speaker 2] [2873.47s] What are your feelings on on suicide?
[Speaker 3] [2876.85s] In the whole universe, there is no punishment.
[Speaker 3] [2878.93s] There are only consequences.
[Speaker 3] [2880.21s] But there is nobody punished.
[Speaker 3] [2881.73s] There is no God punishing them or anybody else.
[Speaker 3] [2884.29s] So punishing is is definitely not possible, but there are only consequences.
[Speaker 3] [2888.63s] So suicide has consequences, and suicide means that I will cut off my prearranged time here on planet Earth and make it short for obvious for mostly for the reasons because I don't want to cope with what I have to what I have thing I have to cope with right now.
[Speaker 3] [2904.44s] And so to to to avoid the difficult situation I'm in.
[Speaker 3] [2909.56s] And, there are many, many reasons.
[Speaker 3] [2912.28s] Now some suicides, I understand, are predetermined before.
[Speaker 3] [2916.41s] But for the most part, it is not.
[Speaker 3] [2918.80s] We are cutting it off.
[Speaker 3] [2919.77s] We are sinking this burden which comes to me, what is this, my illness or whatever, is too much.
[Speaker 3] [2925.45s] I can't handle it.
[Speaker 3] [2927.68s] And therefore, I think if I don't exist anymore, then this would be over.
[Speaker 3] [2932.22s] And this is where a lot of these souls make a big mistake because there is no nonexistence.
[Speaker 3] [2937.50s] The moment we do something as drastic as that, we exist on the other side.
[Speaker 3] [2941.98s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [2942.06s] There we suddenly realize, wow, I blew it.
[Speaker 3] [2944.51s] I just sort of should have stayed longer in college, then I would have read you had to be over.
[Speaker 3] [2948.36s] Now I have to go back to college to learn the lesson again.
[Speaker 3] [2951.39s] I have to become a baby again, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
[Speaker 3] [2953.95s] I have to redo this whole lesson, which I cut myself off.
[Speaker 3] [2957.15s] So I really suffer from that point.
[Speaker 3] [2959.70s] Then it can also be that some souls, after they realize what they have done and how they have hurt their people be left behind, who can't understand, and they feel other the people behind always feel awfully guilty.
[Speaker 3] [2973.31s] I should have seen this at his suicidal.
[Speaker 3] [2975.31s] We know it.
[Speaker 3] [2975.86s] What could have done?
[Speaker 3] [2977.07s] The guilt is enormous of the surviving family members and friends.
[Speaker 3] [2981.31s] And when they see this from the other side, how their family members and friends are suffering from the suicide, they feel so guilty, so guilty, so guilty that they don't even see the angels around them to try to help them, and they can remove themselves into a very lonely space and isolated space because of their own negative feeling.
[Speaker 3] [3001.45s] They feel so low for them.
[Speaker 3] [3002.64s] They don't they feel they don't deserve the love, which still the spiritual beings around them want to give them.
[Speaker 3] [3008.89s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [3009.28s] And they do stay there until they originally officially, planned date of death happens, and then they're more or less released from that moment.
[Speaker 3] [3018.79s] So they can remove themselves, in into that kind of sphere.
[Speaker 3] [3022.79s] But they always help us on the other side, and, it it's just not something, to cons to do because we basically, what most people want, they just want to sleep for a while, for a few years until this problem is over.
[Speaker 3] [3037.41s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [3037.74s] But god the life gives us only problems, which we all created ourselves in the past, which we can handle.
[Speaker 3] [3046.47s] And we are stronger than we think we are because we are not alone.
[Speaker 3] [3050.79s] That is the important thing we always have with us, divinity.
[Speaker 3] [3054.07s] And we I leave this as a big name.
[Speaker 3] [3055.83s] We can call it god.
[Speaker 3] [3057.19s] We can call it Christ, our guardian spirits.
[Speaker 3] [3060.72s] We are never ever alone in life.
[Speaker 3] [3063.51s] Christ and God is in us.
[Speaker 3] [3065.43s] Christ says the kingdom of God is in us, so we have got this powerful thing in us.
[Speaker 3] [3069.91s] And when we ask for help from these divine sources, so much more is possible.
[Speaker 3] [3077.50s] And we ask for guidance and rely on that.
[Speaker 3] [3081.34s] It comes out of loneliness, feeling isolated, feeling removed from everything.
[Speaker 3] [3087.26s] And I I will not mark it as something negative, but it does have consequences.
[Speaker 3] [3093.39s] And if we think through it carefully, it's not worth it because the moment you're on the other side and every suicide person says that it wasn't worth it because you have to redo, you have to relearn the lesson still, and you left so much pain behind of your relatives and your friends and unresolved situations there.
[Speaker 3] [3113.05s] So it is something which is very sad and but, again, also the people who survive the parents and and family members of somebody who committed suicide, it's very difficult for them to go through this period.
[Speaker 3] [3127.91s] Now that is a real heavy loss because here comes in an imagined guilt very often, which sometimes when the child dies in an accident, you may not have that.
[Speaker 3] [3137.83s] But you definitely feel guilty, like you haven't seen the signal.
[Speaker 3] [3141.35s] You should have done something and so on.
[Speaker 3] [3143.67s] That's very difficult to overcome, and I don't have any clear answer to that.
[Speaker 3] [3148.30s] But that's something which these souls have to deal with, these human beings left here to deal with.
[Speaker 3] [3153.99s] And that can be long long lasting pain and suffering, which, again, only Christ or God can eventually help them if they take that heavy burden to the Christ and divinity in them, in a prayer, in a meditation that may help.
[Speaker 2] [3168.76s] Yeah.
[Speaker 3] [3169.24s] Does it answer your question, I think?
[Speaker 2] [3170.84s] It does.
[Speaker 2] [3171.32s] And I think it's a very compassionate, very thoughtful answer.
[Speaker 2] [3175.32s] It's it's one of those things that we we struggle with.
[Speaker 2] [3178.20s] There there are some schools of thought that says, well, there must there has to be punishment.
[Speaker 2] [3182.53s] You know?
[Speaker 2] [3182.76s] They have to go to they have to go to purgatory.
[Speaker 2] [3185.09s] They have to go to hell or something.
[Speaker 2] [3187.40s] And I don't I don't believe that, but I do believe that there there could definitely be, as you said, consequences because, it's just it's just, there there is you're creating so much suffering for the people you've left behind.
[Speaker 2] [3202.24s] And we I believe in that.
[Speaker 2] [3203.96s] I think you believe that we've planned these lives.
[Speaker 2] [3206.57s] We planned some of these difficulties.
[Speaker 2] [3209.05s] And, you know, if you if you bypass them, I don't think anybody's gonna send you back, but you're gonna say, okay.
[Speaker 2] [3215.28s] Well, I didn't I didn't do what I want to do, so let me go do it again.
[Speaker 2] [3219.44s] And the last thing I wanna do was to do this again.
[Speaker 2] [3222.40s] So, you know, for people that are in there you know?
[Speaker 2] [3225.76s] As you said, there's there's always so much help.
[Speaker 2] [3227.84s] There's so much spiritual help that we can get.
[Speaker 2] [3231.20s] And, yeah.
[Speaker 2] [3232.45s] So I think that's a very I think it's a very thoughtful, very compassionate answer.
[Speaker 3] [3236.45s] To understand that we are never ever alone, ever, ever, ever, ever alone can say it over and over again.
[Speaker 3] [3241.41s] That is the key.
[Speaker 3] [3242.14s] And the only way is really when we could come to, when we take a moment and get calm in ourselves.
[Speaker 3] [3246.93s] And and if it's difficult and you think you're still feeling lonely, speak out loud.
[Speaker 3] [3252.55s] Speak with divinity, God, whoever you feel connects closest to you Christ, and say what you feel.
[Speaker 3] [3259.03s] Make that dialogue or even write it down.
[Speaker 3] [3261.82s] Make that dialogue slowly.
[Speaker 3] [3263.34s] Let it come.
[Speaker 3] [3263.98s] Let it flow out, and, speak it about it, what you feel, what you sense, and see whether resonance comes back to you.
[Speaker 3] [3272.39s] And, I remember one on one of my when I was young, one of I had a man emotional low and so on, and then I really didn't know how to deal with a very difficult situation.
[Speaker 3] [3281.63s] And and I really tried everything to manipulate a situation the way I think it should go, and it didn't work.
[Speaker 3] [3288.36s] And then finally, I was basically in tears, and it says and suddenly remember the word, I can't do it.
[Speaker 3] [3294.61s] Thy will be done.
[Speaker 3] [3295.72s] And I meant it.
[Speaker 3] [3297.57s] And the moment I said these words, it flooded through me enormous energy, peace, and strength like I have never experienced before, and so instantly.
[Speaker 3] [3312.27s] And from there, I knew it.
[Speaker 3] [3313.63s] Everything was fine.
[Speaker 3] [3314.99s] I suddenly suddenly surrendered.
[Speaker 3] [3317.39s] We surrender.
[Speaker 3] [3318.91s] Not giving up, we surrender over give giving to god, and thy will be done are very powerful words.
[Speaker 3] [3325.70s] And when we surrender to these words and mean them and know that from god's side, everything will only work for us.
[Speaker 3] [3333.08s] Everything in life is basically working for us, is here for us, and that doesn't happen to us.
[Speaker 3] [3337.72s] Then we are relaxing into that tremendous stream of energy, which is in us and it surrounds us and wants to help us.
[Speaker 3] [3348.43s] Divinity's highest goal is service, is love.
[Speaker 3] [3352.36s] They want to serve.
[Speaker 3] [3353.88s] They help us, etcetera.
[Speaker 3] [3355.64s] Think about what is a guardian spirit.
[Speaker 3] [3357.47s] Most of your listeners surely know about it.
[Speaker 3] [3360.07s] I mean, guardian spirit is a soul who's dedicated their life for another soul like you and me.
[Speaker 3] [3366.03s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [3366.59s] To be there as guarded, watch over us, like a mother over a baby, basically, in many ways.
[Speaker 3] [3373.24s] Not that it can protect us from everything or give everything we want, but keep an eye that more or less our life goes according to our original plan.
[Speaker 3] [3382.05s] So there we have a spirit being who dedicates the whole entity time for us.
[Speaker 3] [3388.11s] That is love.
[Speaker 3] [3389.63s] And the energy is much bigger from Christ, much, much bigger from God.
[Speaker 3] [3394.43s] That is the love, divine energy.
[Speaker 3] [3396.91s] It is here to serve us, help us to serve everything in nature, everything around this earth.
[Speaker 2] [3404.09s] Awesome.
[Speaker 2] [3404.64s] Awesome.
[Speaker 2] [3405.29s] Well, for for excuse me, Hans.
[Speaker 2] [3407.05s] For people that are just discovering your work, you've got so so much out there.
[Speaker 2] [3411.93s] How would you how would you suggest someone get started to to go through your catalog?
[Speaker 3] [3418.16s] Well, I would say just go to my website, lifeexplained.com, or go to my YouTube channel.
[Speaker 3] [3423.36s] Be there because both are the same videos, but in a different order.
[Speaker 3] [3426.72s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [3426.88s] And then just click on the videos, and then just look at it.
[Speaker 3] [3430.01s] You, your inner guidance will show you which is a video for you.
[Speaker 3] [3434.32s] May it be on animals, may it be on death, may it be on forgiveness, may it be under call law of cause attraction.
[Speaker 3] [3440.80s] It whatever the the the subject is, your inner soul will guide you to the right video.
[Speaker 3] [3446.90s] So the step number one, go to the websites either on the YouTube or lifeexplained.com, and let your inner guidance touch on that video, which you think you would like to see right now, and let that speak to you.
[Speaker 3] [3459.70s] And if it works for you, fine.
[Speaker 3] [3461.07s] If it doesn't work, it's also fine.
[Speaker 3] [3462.82s] I have zero interest in convincing anybody about the truth of what I believe.
[Speaker 3] [3469.39s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [3469.71s] That is my belief.
[Speaker 3] [3470.43s] I immediately share it, and I will not try to convince anybody about this one.
[Speaker 3] [3474.99s] I do not have a need to missionize around here.
[Speaker 3] [3477.39s] Mhmm.
[Speaker 3] [3477.63s] I just want to share it, and I think this works for me.
[Speaker 3] [3480.19s] If it works for you, great.
[Speaker 3] [3481.31s] If it doesn't work for you, that's great
[Speaker 2] [3483.68s] too.
[Speaker 2] [3483.93s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [3484.32s] I love that.
[Speaker 2] [3485.13s] I love that.
[Speaker 2] [3486.16s] So, is there anything that you would like to have spoken about today that that I didn't ask you?
[Speaker 3] [3492.57s] No.
[Speaker 3] [3492.89s] I think, Brian, you did great with your question and so on.
[Speaker 3] [3495.36s] And, yeah, we touched on very important and stuff.
[Speaker 3] [3498.48s] But, yeah, the message is that we are never alone.
[Speaker 3] [3501.68s] And I think if we also want to come into a more positive space in our mind, I always feel the number one is to feel gratitude, to really think about my what am I grateful for?
[Speaker 3] [3513.11s] I have a body still.
[Speaker 3] [3514.07s] I have got here my computer.
[Speaker 3] [3515.34s] I've got a glass of water.
[Speaker 3] [3516.47s] I've got food in the fridge.
[Speaker 3] [3517.59s] I have got a roof over the head.
[Speaker 3] [3518.86s] I've got clothes on many billions of people don't have that.
[Speaker 2] [3522.39s] Yes.
[Speaker 3] [3522.95s] I am very grateful for that and feel that gratefulness.
[Speaker 3] [3525.82s] And out of gratefulness comes more and more.
[Speaker 3] [3528.70s] Gratefulness is one of the most important energy to bring us back to who we truly are because we are very we are children of God, and God gives us continuously, but we don't see all the gifts around us.
[Speaker 3] [3542.06s] We hardly acknowledges.
[Speaker 3] [3544.01s] And we sit here and acknowledge the immense gifts, which can material gifts like the computer, like whatever it is.
[Speaker 3] [3550.01s] It doesn't matter.
[Speaker 3] [3552.32s] It just makes us aware that we are much closer to divinity than we ever thought because we are surrounded by gifts.
[Speaker 3] [3560.84s] Our body included, every cell of our body is a gift, and every friend and every person in our life is a gift.
[Speaker 3] [3568.09s] And we are never alone.
[Speaker 3] [3569.20s] Even if we do not have friends, we are never alone ever.
[Speaker 2] [3573.28s] Yeah.
[Speaker 2] [3573.53s] I think that is a fantastic way to wrap up.
[Speaker 2] [3576.09s] So thank you so much for being here today.
[Speaker 2] [3578.09s] Thanks for your for sharing what you share.
[Speaker 2] [3580.83s] Remind people it's lifeexplained.com and where they could find you, and it's Hans Wilhelm.
[Speaker 2] [3585.71s] Thank you so much, Hans.
[Speaker 3] [3587.23s] Thank you, Brian.
[Speaker 3] [3588.35s] I wish you all the best.
[Speaker 3] [3589.31s] Thank you so much.
[Speaker 3] [3590.11s] Have a great show.